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To: iontheball

no. the spike protein is just the tube by which the virus injects it’s genetic material itself into the cell. the genetic material is what does the real damage. as i was taught back in the 70’s, the genetic material either splices itself into the cell’s DNA or it becomes a plasmid in the cell acting as a runt chromosome.

anyway it’s like a viral “needle.” it uses the ACE2 receptor on the cell surface to spoof angiotensin the normal regulating analyte. it’s function is very simple. that’s probably why it was chosen. it was the obvious choice. problem it seems to make a small proportion of people who get the vaccine very sick.


49 posted on 06/15/2021 3:48:10 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

That is certainly what we all thought, but in this case, it’s been found to be the case that the spike protein itself is also cytotoxic.

From the virus’ point of view, that’s probably irrelevant, as long as the spike does it’s job of gaining entry to the target cell.

But from our perspective, some have speculated that a bunch of free spike protein in serum is one of the triggers for the inflammatory response that sends the unlucky folks to the ICU.


61 posted on 06/15/2021 4:08:44 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: dadfly
That is the real problem. I know people older than me that had the shots and appear fine. But we know there have been thousands of adverse reactions and at this point the “science” cannot tell us why only certain people have reactions and some die. So, the "science" cannot rule out that I will die, have clots or damage my heart.

Tell me why they died or had blood clots or enlarged hearts and I will consider the vaccine. If they cannot do that with any certainty then I will wait for the more traditional vaccines currently working their way through the pipeline. I am not an anti-vaxxer and cannot get the vaccine at this time because I have just finished a different vaccine routine.

I recently had COVID and as we learn more about this disease, I believe I am unlikely to get it again for 11 months or possible longer. I can wait.

73 posted on 06/15/2021 4:28:52 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for )
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To: dadfly
no. the spike protein is just the tube
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We will have to agree to disagree. I see the spike as an engineered toxin. Then, loosening that pathogen on the body in the form of a “vaccine,” after seeing what it did in SARS Covid 2 is the height of stupidity. Are they really that stupid or has it been part of the plan all along? The clue is the bastards are still refusing to release the ban on Ivermectin and HCQ. If this is all so above board and they are really concerned about humanity, why the ban? It's there because they want to keep using the emergency use exception, avoid liability, and keep shooting world humanity up with a killer toxin. Now, they want it in the kids who hardly are affected by the virus. People have to come to grips with this issue and not deny the obvious. Thank you for your thoughts on the matter. Time will be the arbiter of this issue. I pray I'm wrong for humanity's sake.
118 posted on 06/16/2021 3:10:46 AM PDT by iontheball
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