The point is there are people dying and having severe reactions to these vaccines.
The point is that Insurance companies are refusing to cover these things because it’s experimental.
The point is the real side effects if these vaccines have not been seen yet and we don’t know the outcome.
The point is you as a doctor don’t care.
I see you like to redefine the argument as you go along and I will call you out for the same.
1. Please quantify the number of DIRECT deaths DEMONSTRATING causation from the vaccine. You cannot. I even assumed your (overinflated) number was correct for the sake of argument.
2. You are incorrect, insurance companies are not paying for it because the government is currently making it free of charge. This is a gross over exaggeration of a policy.
3. The real side effects were studies in phase 1 - 3 trials. Of late there are isolated and rare reports of clotting (chance of clinical critical clot as in the case of cerebral venous thrombus is 1/1M), there are rare reports of nonspecific myocarditis in younger patients, none of which has been anything except self limited and did not result in death or permanent damage — and there are well documented other side effects including: muscle soreness, self limited fever, malaise, and other constitutional symptoms all of which are judged to be minor and of a brief period. This is no different than any other vaccination or therapeutic.
The point is as a doctor, I am versed in the risks, benefits, and objective side effects instead of the gross emotional debate surrounding fake news that your side seems to be gleeful to espouse even when disproven or wrong. This whole thread is entitled something THAT WAS NEVER SAID.
The fact that I can maintain a scientific and objective viewpoint seems to disturb you — and the point is you still will not answer a direct question based on the data. Even using your numbers, the risk of vaccine is 5x less than the risk you incur of getting in your car. Are you prepared to speak to this, or is your plan in perpetuity to try to not address this simple data driven point utilizing numbers that are grossly inflated.
I see you like to redefine the argument as you go along and I will call you out for the same.
1. Please quantify the number of DIRECT deaths DEMONSTRATING causation from the vaccine. You cannot. I even assumed your (overinflated) number was correct for the sake of argument.
2. You are incorrect, insurance companies are not paying for it because the government is currently making it free of charge. This is a gross over exaggeration of a policy.
3. The real side effects were studies in phase 1 - 3 trials. Of late there are isolated and rare reports of clotting (chance of clinical critical clot as in the case of cerebral venous thrombus is 1/1M), there are rare reports of nonspecific myocarditis in younger patients, none of which has been anything except self limited and did not result in death or permanent damage — and there are well documented other side effects including: muscle soreness, self limited fever, malaise, and other constitutional symptoms all of which are judged to be minor and of a brief period. This is no different than any other vaccination or therapeutic.
The point is as a doctor, I am versed in the risks, benefits, and objective side effects instead of the gross emotional debate surrounding fake news that your side seems to be gleeful to espouse even when disproven or wrong. This whole thread is entitled something THAT WAS NEVER SAID.
The fact that I can maintain a scientific and objective viewpoint seems to disturb you — and the point is you still will not answer a direct question based on the data. Even using your numbers, the risk of vaccine is 5x less than the risk you incur of getting in your car. Are you prepared to speak to this, or is your plan in perpetuity to try to not address this simple data driven point utilizing numbers that are grossly inflated.