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1 posted on 05/20/2021 3:51:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java
Sorry, Mr. Workman, but I've switched to exclusively pocket carrying my Ruger LCP because of the extreme convenience. I haven't worn my Glock 26 in an IWB holster in years.

I'll accept the difficulty of access when seated, just as I have accepted the compromise of .380 over 9mm and 6+1 over 10+1 rounds.

2 posted on 05/20/2021 4:25:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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He missed one:

Public Restrooms Are the Bane of a concealed carrier's existence
3 posted on 05/20/2021 4:30:13 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: COBOL2Java

I am a fan of manual safety and it’s because I carry with one on the chamber. I figure if I need it then I need it to go bang ASAP. I love my glock but always in fear I will make myself a second butt crack. I know it likely won’t happen but it’s the thought of it drives me nuts. I am currently looking at another carry gun. Currently carry Taurus 709 slim and hate the trigger. It breaks way to far back for me. I should have played with it before I bought it. And there is no trigger work that can be done on it. Looking at the sig 320.


5 posted on 05/20/2021 4:52:23 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: COBOL2Java

“Smaller Guns are Easier to Shoot”

For people with smaller hands, this is likely to be true. It’s awkward having a finger off of the grip. I have medium width hands and long fingers. It feels like my hand goes around my wife’s Glock 42 almost twice, and my right pinky is entirely off the grip. That is awkward. I wouldn’t want to have to draw that pistol. I would think that small hands shooting a larger weapon would be similarly awkward or worse. How a pistol feels in the hand is probably the most important factor (next to price). If kick is a problem, strengthen your forearms/grip.

Finding a holster that doesn’t require a belt is a challenge. Shoulder holster under a t-shirt isn’t really an option. Wearing a belt seems to be the way to go. Some have their own belt; cost under $50. Father’s Day is right around the corner. Hint for anyone who might see this!


6 posted on 05/20/2021 4:56:17 AM PDT by cdcdawg (It's all so tiresome.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I do not carry smaller than .45. i do not care if i print. favorite carry is front left crossdraw owb. i like one shot one kill.


9 posted on 05/20/2021 5:23:43 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: COBOL2Java
"There are only a few guns for which a manual safety is an integral part of design and function."

Say what...?

13 posted on 05/20/2021 5:31:21 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: COBOL2Java

disagree with the empty chamber advice. there are tons fo stories about children shooting guns because there already was a round in the chamber, often with tragic results. unless you’re a cop, my advice is nothing in the tube


14 posted on 05/20/2021 5:31:26 AM PDT by camle (keep and open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: COBOL2Java
Conceal carry of any weapon, no matter the caliber should be dictated by what you wear, and the time of season you are wearing it.

Summer, is shorts and polo's for guys, and that means pocket pistols, because carrying any sized 1911 is not really practical in 90 degree/85% humidity weather.

There are a plethora of small, pocketable pistols in calibers from .22 to .45 available. So power is not the issue in pocket pistols, but recoil is harsher.

And don't forget revolvers. They rarely fail, better power factor, 5-6 shot, and you can still carry in a pocket.

Remember, you're not out to fight a war, but to give yourself an opportunity stop a bad situation from getting worse, and living to tell about it.

If you have never been in a personal confrontation where having a weapon kept you breathing, be glad for that. Because everything that happens AFTER that is where the nightmares begin.

And the number one rule of carrying concealed,
DON'T CHECK THE WEAPON EVERY 5 SECONDS.

If I had a dime for every individual carrying that I knew of simply by the continual weapon check, I'd have more money than Jeff Bezos.

If the pistol is in your pocket and was secure when you left the house, LEAVE IT ALONE.
If you are holster carrying, and it was secure when you left the house, LEAVE IT ALONE.

Do some observation while out at the stores sometime, see if you can pick up the folk that carry.

15 posted on 05/20/2021 5:36:47 AM PDT by Wizdum (Tyranny always ends badly for the tyrannical. Ask Ceaușescu, Gaddafi or Saddam.)
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To: COBOL2Java

https://asi-usa.org/

Above is a plug for a group called Action Shooting International. Very relaxed “move and shoot” group that runs sessions at various gun clubs. Is not the pro-level stuff, but you can practice shooting at various targets while moving, changing magazines, shooting around obstacles, etc.

Affordable too. Sessions are something like $20 only. After the first session they want you to join for another $20. It is not instructional, just getting to shoot while moving. Well, they give you some shooting tips. Safety rules are taught without making one feel like an idiot.


17 posted on 05/20/2021 5:47:22 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Let me just say ... there’s no logical conflict between belt, pocket and ankle ... all three.

C -> C++ -> Java -> C# -> Java (devolution in that last step)


20 posted on 05/20/2021 5:55:59 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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One other word of advise: Suspenders.
Been using them forever to mitigate the weight of my Beretta 92 for years.
And, my pants no longer fall down.


23 posted on 05/20/2021 6:01:25 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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28 posted on 05/20/2021 6:14:46 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I carry a Glock 43, (mostly) in a Sticky Holster pocket holster, no round chambered.


30 posted on 05/20/2021 6:40:58 AM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Who claims smaller guns are easier to shoot? NEVER heard that one before! Same with the ankle carry one. And while most know a typical range isn’t the best practice, many of us live where it is the ONLY practice we’re able to get. Beats nothing!


33 posted on 05/20/2021 7:05:00 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: COBOL2Java

‘Put your cell phone in your pocket, sit down and try to pull it out without standing up. Pretty difficult, no? Now imagine your cell phone is your gun tucked in a pocket holster, and you need to get to it in a hurry. Probably not going to happen. That’s one of the biggest drawbacks of pocket carry: inaccessibility. If you’re sitting down, such as in a restaurant or your car, you’ll have a harder time getting your gun out of your pocket.’

Plenty of wheelchair bound carry. Who puts their gun inside your jeans waist?


42 posted on 05/20/2021 8:54:52 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I’ve been carrying for decades. I carry a Glock 23 because I don’t believe in manual safties. I’ve seen videos of people forgetting to disengage a manual safety during an actual gunfight. I also don’t believe in carrying with an empty chamber. Now you just have an expensive paperweight. When I pull my Glock out, it’s not going snag on any clothing that will cause the trigger to be pulled. It’s going to be ready to engage without any further action beyond pulling the trigger. People who need the reassurance of a manual safety and/or empty chamber probably shouldn’t be carrying in the first place.


45 posted on 05/20/2021 9:28:32 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Years ago, I ran across "KY Jim's Rules of Carry", which cover the bases about as well as anything I've seen. Quoting from memory:

1. Any gun is better than no gun.

2. A reliable gun is better than one that is not.

3. A hole where you want it is better than a hole someplace else.

4. A bigger hole is a better hole.

I've also seen a 5th rule added:

5. Don't carry it, if you can't afford to replace it.

;^)

64 posted on 05/20/2021 12:38:20 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? (Joe & Jill went up the hill to screw the country over...)
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To: Nailbiter

flr


68 posted on 05/20/2021 4:23:10 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: COBOL2Java

“Manual Safeties are Better” is described as a myth. That’s overly generalizing. Whether or not a manual safety is better depends on how you’re carrying. Appendix carry is popular with the young crowd and good for its special purposes and conditions, but it’s not always the best way.

A person in a particular situation might need to carry under several layers of supple clothing and need to fish the weapon out of all of that in a tense situation. And during part of that draw, the trigger might not be covered with a trigger cover (see finger getting pushed or snagged by something else into trigger guard).

Quite a few methods of carry are good for their respective reasons and various circumstances, and special practice is needed for each one. Training can’t be overemphasized. More training, always, and safety first. Generally, people are more likely to have accidents than to get into firefights. Very few people will become hot rod killers like characters in movies. Few can even do well with hitting stationary targets on ranges.

Another thing that’s popular now is a lack of good retention. There are hoods who practice pulling other people’s weapons.

And as for recoil and weapon type (e.g., subcompacts), it depends on the person. Many are far more sensitive to it now than over two generations ago. One who wants to desensitize to recoil might fire a 12 gauge shotgun until desensitized, but as always, be careful. Practice slowly, following every safety step. Paradoxically, speed eventually comes from that with enough practice, seemingly all by itself.

And remember, he who has the most calm, analytical mind in an exciting situation stands a much better chance. Not everyone experiences that “tunnel vision.”


77 posted on 05/20/2021 7:44:38 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: COBOL2Java

And don’t carry with a loaded chamber under the hammer with an old revolver lacking a trigger bar or some other mechanism to keep that hammer from hitting the firing pin.


78 posted on 05/20/2021 7:55:59 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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