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Concealed Carry Myths
Shooting Illustrated ^ | 13 May 2021 | David Workman

Posted on 05/20/2021 3:51:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

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To: COBOL2Java

yep. I use the the magnet down on the panel by my right knee for some trips. Just a little less visible if someone is looking in the window.

I mentioned when I holster while driving, I shift the RH IWB to the left side so its not under the seatbelt. Comes out with a RH cross draw naturally pointing to the driver side door.


61 posted on 05/20/2021 10:34:16 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Magnum44

yes, lots of good reading on this thread...


62 posted on 05/20/2021 10:35:07 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Yo-Yo

I pretty much have done the same thing and gone to pocket carry with a Sig365, Kel-Tec P32, Taurus TCP .380 or a .38spl revolver, and I carry condition one in the autos. I have a good pocket holster, a Mika Pocket holster(EXCELLENT POCKET HOLSTERS!) for each model that fully covers the triggers and it stays in the pocket but the weapon easily comes out if I need to access it.

As a rule of thumb I never carry anything else in the pocket where I am carrying my weapon. If I am driving I have another weapon in the console or glove box should I need to access a piece. If I am at home I have have a handgun near my seat at home. About the only place I am not carrying is at my work where I am prevented from doing so.

As another poster related I hate public restrooms and have a standard check in place when I am finished. I smack my phone in my shirt pocket, my wallet in the back pocket, my car keys in my weak side front pocket and then my firearm in my strong side pocket. The 1,2,3,4 quick count.


63 posted on 05/20/2021 11:12:29 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: COBOL2Java
Years ago, I ran across "KY Jim's Rules of Carry", which cover the bases about as well as anything I've seen. Quoting from memory:

1. Any gun is better than no gun.

2. A reliable gun is better than one that is not.

3. A hole where you want it is better than a hole someplace else.

4. A bigger hole is a better hole.

I've also seen a 5th rule added:

5. Don't carry it, if you can't afford to replace it.

;^)

64 posted on 05/20/2021 12:38:20 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? (Joe & Jill went up the hill to screw the country over...)
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To: nanook

YES, I carry a Series 70 Colt’s Government Model 1911 concealed & generally under an untucked golf shirt with jeans, cowboy boots or boat shoes.
(The secret is the PROPER size golf shirt & the DON HUME “CONCEALER” holster, which is made to blend in with the upper body silhouette. = It pulls the Colt’s GM close to the body & is really inconspicuous.
(I’ve had other LEOs ask me why I was NOT armed & when I pointed out that I was carrying a GM, they were STUNNED.)

Yours, ex-cadet


65 posted on 05/20/2021 3:38:56 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: cdcdawg

EXACTLY SO.

Yours, ex-cadet


66 posted on 05/20/2021 3:47:59 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: Who is John Galt?

Good rules!


67 posted on 05/20/2021 4:12:52 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Masks are safety blankets to the feeble minded)
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To: Nailbiter

flr


68 posted on 05/20/2021 4:23:10 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: cdcdawg

I am reminded of the WISE words of “The Polish Falcon”, who was one of our senior instructors when I was a student at USAMPS’ MPOBC.
(He said to our class one day, “Gentlemen, It may possibly be that you will complete your law enforcement career without getting into a single shooting incident & are never required to use deadly force to protect yourself or another person.” [PAUSE] He continued, “It is also very possible that you will be forced to exchange gunfire with a criminal to preserve your life or another person’s life.” [PAUSE] “Should that VERY BAD DAY come into your life, you will need a gun on that WORST OF ALL days & on that day you will need a gun BADLY. ——— Thus you should always go about your daily duties armed.”

“The Falcon” told us that over 50 years ago & I have never forgotten his advice. - YES, I have had more than one of the “very bad days” that he spoke of.
(All these long years later, I still carry a handgun concealed every day.)

yours, satx


69 posted on 05/20/2021 4:41:33 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: ex-cadet

So what’s the smallest handgun you’re willing to carry?


70 posted on 05/20/2021 4:51:08 PM PDT by OKSooner ("Burn-Loot-Murder, the Post-American Urban Triathlon.")
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To: OKSooner

A S&W Model 10 “snubbie”, loaded with 200 grain soft lead bullets, as that “long for caliber” bullet, out of a 2-3” .38SPL barrel, TUMBLES & “makes a MESS of the interior of the torso”.
(FYI, a Louisiana ME once described the wound made by that round of ammo out of a “snubbie” at close range, as a “large bloody rat hole”.

Yours, ex-cadet


71 posted on 05/20/2021 5:00:58 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: COBOL2Java

FWIW, when I worked for an International agency in the early 1990s in Latin America, I routinely carried a PAIR of BHP, loaded with 147 grain JHP.
(The agency REQUIRED only 9x19mm firearms/ammo.)

Yours, ex-cadet


72 posted on 05/20/2021 5:05:50 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: COBOL2Java

FWIW, when I worked for an International agency in the early 1990s in Latin America, I routinely carried a PAIR of BHP, loaded with 147 grain JHP.
(The agency REQUIRED only 9x19mm firearms/ammo.)

Yours, ex-cadet


73 posted on 05/20/2021 5:11:41 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: cdcdawg

The problem I have is that I am very small framed and live entirely in sweat pants in cold weather then shorts during the warmer months. Nothing I wear requires a belt so I am limited to paddle holsters which due to the weight of the pistol, pulls down the sweat pants or shorts on the side of the gun........LOL!


74 posted on 05/20/2021 5:28:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

I suggest that you take the advice of the late JUSTIN WILSON, AKA: THE SAGE OF CAJUNLAND, & become a SAFETY MAN.
(CHUCKLE)

Yours, ex-cadet


75 posted on 05/20/2021 5:36:10 PM PDT by ex-cadet ("VICTORY OR DEATH", William Barrett Travis LtCol, Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 24th F'by 1836)
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To: House Atreides

“Everyday carry AND RELATED procedures should be such that children can’t access the weapons.”

With the grandchildren we also work toward “children WON’T access weapons,” even if they are lying on the coffee table.

Still, “can’t” is a degree safer, so we don’t leave loaded weapons strewn about the room either.

However, sometimes I fall asleep in my chair, edc on the coffee table, and the grandkids come over whilst I snore. At times like that I think it better that the chamber be empty.

I am old, they are young, and I want that extra degree of safety.

If I were heading into harm’s way, then I’d load 6+1.


76 posted on 05/20/2021 6:51:51 PM PDT by dsc (Paul? Paul Revere? Are you out there?)
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To: COBOL2Java

“Manual Safeties are Better” is described as a myth. That’s overly generalizing. Whether or not a manual safety is better depends on how you’re carrying. Appendix carry is popular with the young crowd and good for its special purposes and conditions, but it’s not always the best way.

A person in a particular situation might need to carry under several layers of supple clothing and need to fish the weapon out of all of that in a tense situation. And during part of that draw, the trigger might not be covered with a trigger cover (see finger getting pushed or snagged by something else into trigger guard).

Quite a few methods of carry are good for their respective reasons and various circumstances, and special practice is needed for each one. Training can’t be overemphasized. More training, always, and safety first. Generally, people are more likely to have accidents than to get into firefights. Very few people will become hot rod killers like characters in movies. Few can even do well with hitting stationary targets on ranges.

Another thing that’s popular now is a lack of good retention. There are hoods who practice pulling other people’s weapons.

And as for recoil and weapon type (e.g., subcompacts), it depends on the person. Many are far more sensitive to it now than over two generations ago. One who wants to desensitize to recoil might fire a 12 gauge shotgun until desensitized, but as always, be careful. Practice slowly, following every safety step. Paradoxically, speed eventually comes from that with enough practice, seemingly all by itself.

And remember, he who has the most calm, analytical mind in an exciting situation stands a much better chance. Not everyone experiences that “tunnel vision.”


77 posted on 05/20/2021 7:44:38 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: COBOL2Java

And don’t carry with a loaded chamber under the hammer with an old revolver lacking a trigger bar or some other mechanism to keep that hammer from hitting the firing pin.


78 posted on 05/20/2021 7:55:59 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yes on public restrooms for some. That’s why so many police ankle carry .380s.


79 posted on 05/20/2021 8:04:18 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Who claims smaller guns are easier to shoot? NEVER heard that one before!

I took the author to be in agreement with you, lightly mocking those who prefer to shoot smaller guns.

80 posted on 05/20/2021 8:07:00 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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