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To: RoosterRedux

You can find plenty more negative info on Elizondo...I only showed you one such article. You are entitled to your own opinion, and I to mine. My opinion, shared by many, is that Elizondo is a self-aggrandizing fraudster cashing in on UFO mania.


27 posted on 05/17/2021 1:03:56 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
Well, of course, you are welcome to your opinion.

My opinion of Elizondo is that he is doing a fine, but thankless job and has stellar credentials.

Either way, we will find out soon enough.

29 posted on 05/17/2021 1:06:43 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: dinodino

Thanks for your posts.

I have been fascinated by this field for decades, and there seems to be an inverse relationship to how much media coverage someone gets and how much they actually know.

;-)

Imho one of the purposes of the UFOs is to undermine human science and the military. Those attempting to use science or the military to investigate them end up chasing their tails.

Some of the “smartest folks in the room” who “get this” imho are Jacque Vallee, Terence McKenna and John Mack.

Here are one McKenna podcast worth a listen:

https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast-261-the-definitive-ufo-tape/

Jacque Vallee’s breakthrough book:

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Magonia-Folklore-Flying-Saucers/dp/0987422480

John Mack eventually started asking the right questions:

https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Cosmos-John-Mack/dp/1907661816


56 posted on 05/17/2021 1:25:38 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: dinodino
You can find plenty more negative info on Elizondo...I only showed you one such article.

Full disclosure: I don't know of this guy and have no dog in this fight.

This reminds me of the early days here and a poster with the screen name "Michael Rivero" who claimed some level of expertise because he had "worked for NASA" at some point in his career.

Any post he made about technical details related to aviation or space were way off.

It was all bluster and tinfoil, but he had lots of followers here.

It turned out later that his job at NASA was as a graphic artist. Nothing against graphic artists, but drawing stick figures of moon landings rarely leads to a detailed aerospace knowledgebase.

100 posted on 05/17/2021 2:12:34 PM PDT by TankerKC (Be first with the truth. )
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