Posted on 05/07/2021 2:42:45 PM PDT by Signalman
Officials in Maricopa County, Arizona, are refusing to comply with subpoenas from the state Senate that require them to turn over routers or router images to auditors reviewing the November 2020 election, saying that surrendering the items will cause a "significant security risk" to local law enforcement.
"We had previously believed that the risk would be eliminated by redacting the law enforcement data on the routers and not producing it. But we were informed that redaction did not eliminate the risk," Deputy County Attorney Joseph LaRue said in a letter this week to Senate Audit Liaison Ken Bennett, reports The Arizona Daily Independent. "We also learned that if criminal elements or others gained access to this data, it might compromise county and federal law enforcement efforts and put the lives of law enforcement personnel at risk."
LaRue's letter was prompted after Bennett this week told KFYI, a local talk radio station in Phoenix, that the county's officials were not in compliance with the subpoenas, which were signed by Senate President Karen Fann and Senate Judiciary Chair Warren Petersen and ruled valid by a judge in February.
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Or maybe they CAN’T turn them over, because they have already been destroyed??
We all know what they are hiding.
Ducey is a POS Never-Trumper.
Yep!
Everyone assumes the Supervisor of Elections in Maricopa County has routers that directly connect to the internet, I would say they probably don’t...
What is more likely is the Election Supervisor Routers send internet requests to a central data center at Maricopa County that has a much bigger pipe and provides a central internet access point for the internet....
Over 40 years in IT, now retired.
CISSP, CCNP and PMP over those years.
I have joined the networks of several multi billion companies, and conducted multiple detailed security audits. To include several state, local and federal entities.
I know what I’m talking about.
You don’t.
Great point...we also are assuming the log servers are even implemented and for how long logs are maintained...remember November was almost 6 months ago
The question of custody is already settled. The legislature holds all the cards. These creatures are simply stretching for time.”
They have not handed them over and they will not hand them over...count on it. Nothing will happen to them for it.
I’ll send a 50.00 check to FR if they actually hand over an un wiped unmolested server.
Prior to civilian life, I worked with DCA and WHCA. Also CINCPAC.
I was a crew member in VQ3, handling the most sophisticated and sensitive communication in the nation.
Absolutely not true in a modern network environment. Time, date, MAC address, source and destination IP addresses, which interface on the router and switch the traffic went through and which physical switch port said traffic went through and other information are logged which is passed along to a network managment system. If Maricopa County does not have that sort of IT in place, they are negligent in their duties. Those logs should be able to destroy any claims of non-cheating that occurred via internet connection/s.
I am convinced the people the state senate hired are neophytes and have no idea what they are doing.
Maricopa held up a router and said “look, squirrel! and these dumb bastards think it’s important because they won’t give them up.
They are on a wild goose chase, and they don’t know what a goose looks like.
I had 38 years in IT support, started out supporting Burroughs Mainframes in 1981...
Ended up working at a Cisco TAC Technical Assistance Center supporting basic routing, access lists, Frame Relay, and ISDN BRI circuits...
Went on to get my CCNP in Route/Switch and CCVP in Voice...
Contracted to several major fortune 100 companies implementing routers, switches, QoS, Call Managers, Unity Voice Mail Servers, Voice Gateways, hundreds of ISDN PRI Circuits and 10s of thousands of Cisco IP Phones of all kinds....One of the Cisco Voice Projects I worked on implemented over 400,000 phones.....
I say all that so that we need to concentrate on what’s important and the routers are far down on that list...
It absolute is true....
Routers have minimal mass storage, probably less than 200 gigs storage which would be huge...I’ve worked on routers with far less....
Routers DO NOT have hard drives on them, they have something called a flash drive which at most contains 1-2 copies of the operating system and the configuration that is running on the router....outside of that pretty much nothing else...
Routers and can be configured to send information to a log server or servers and we have no idea if Maricopa County even uses that setup or how long log files are maintained....remember November is almost 6 months ago..
This router issue is a wild goose chase and distraction. Concentrate on the physical ballots, the machines that count the votes and who has access to them...
Agreed, routers / switches, etc. do not have mass storage for logs, at least in the globally connected Cisco environment I worked with. Those devices capture the header / footer information and pass it along for logging. The connectivity devices (switches, routers, interfaces, et al) “should” be configured to report to a network management system all of the pertinent information of each connection. Every one. I recently retired but part of my work involved reading those logs for troubleshooting purposes. I’ve seen them, I’ve read them, I know what they contain (not in their entirety, just what I had access to).
I’ve been in IT for well over 25 years, and a CCIE for over 15 years now. There was a time when routers would not have played much of a role in this, outside of netflow/jflow/ipfix connection data, but remote access VPN configs would certainly be suspicious.
Far beyond that, most router operating systems now are built on top of a Linux kernel. This allows them to run Linux containers. These containers can do whatever you want them to do (and these containers can potentially be in the middle of a break/inspect/re-encrypt path configured on the report itself.
I don’t see this as a distraction. They have to look at EVERYTHING to get a complete audit. It’s not like they stopped doing anything else while arguing about the routers.
They have already said they replaced the routers. So the old ones are gone. That’s where the info was. No way they turn over the ones used during the election.
Then we should be able find out who authorized the purchase order for the $15+, per copy new routers when the old ones were still supported (not that I know if they were or not).
Not necessarily, especially if they contain data that's a "significant security risk" to local law enforcement (which I don't believe for a second).
correction, $15k+ per copy
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