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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The definition that was changed was actually the definition of herd immunity. The change was to the effect that it was immunity achieved by vaccine injection, with no acknowledgement of either inherent or cellular immunity. Then came the conflation of mRNA with a true vaccine and here we all are squabbling over definitions.

I get the concept of mRNA as opposed to the attenuated or killed pathogen mode as a sort of vaccine. And if anyone wants to extend the definition of vaccine to mRNA that programs cells to produce an actual pathogen, I can’t stop them.

But the manufacturers and Malone, the inventor, call it an operating system. It IS gene therapy of the sort that has long been proposed to treat cancer and genetic defects. THAT is what it is.

Many people took the injection for a variety of reasons. The entire world is now terrified of the results lying ahead, especially with such an admitted disparity between the published numbers and the gut knowledge of the involved professionals of the extrapolated numbers of deaths and long term results.

All of humanity, the actual victims of this event, fighting among ourselves only provides distraction that benefits the perpetrators. Already, the bright people are working on how to treat and mitigate the morbidities and the fight is really to prevent any more mortality.

I think the smugness displayed by those attempting to paint the injection as some sort of miracle that saved humanity from an obviously non-lethal virus is uncalled for. Most such defenders either took the injection or those they love did. Their chosen stance is based in fear and guilt.

Not everyone is adversely affected so far. My guess is maybe 5% dead and another 4-5% with severe reactions, some of which will resolve. So, the odds favor resilient humans.

The real questions are: why was this rushed? If it’s so effective, why boosters? And since the variants produced by the injected only vary by 3% from the original CV19, natural immunity will protect the recovered and the inherently immune.

So, besides the already deceased, who cannot be resurrected, the threat remains to the injected. We need to stop new injections, get to the bottom of motivations, work on mitigations and let the mRNA be used for the genetic therapy it was designed for, with full testing beforehand and full transparency.

No one wants to play gotcha except the scared and the guilty. Maybe that’s to be expected. It’s very painful to accept that one has been duped, used, betrayed by someone who was trusted.

But that is being revealed as more apparently the truth by the hour.

Personally, I want to discover the end game of the perps who are behind this without having all the horror play out any further. Once we know that, we can mitigate it and they can be dealt with appropriately.

I have taken numerous vaccines. I’m old enough that I have loads of natural immunity via survival. I stay abreast of the global Awakening community not because I follow anyone or have any allegiance to whatever Q may have been or is, but because the best research has come out of that community on various facets of this war we are in: political, economic, medical and spiritual. Also, there are many highly educated professionals in that movement and they are generous with their knowledge, so I learn a lot, dumbed down to my lay level. Lots of human kindness there, as well.

We really are all in this together and if not, we really will all die alone. I suggest we cease the petty bickering, overcome anger, frustration, fear, and guilt, stop the blaming and turn as one towards the evil minds who are telling us they want to cull humanity, alter the environment, replace the biome with an artificially produced & manufactured construct that has no sustainability at all, and return to feudalism with a technocratic overlay.

I’m old. The insidious culture these wanna-be transhumanists have elevated has consumed my blood family. I have a lot less skin in this game than those with children, grandchildren and extended kin.

I would, however, like to hang around long enough to see the perpetrators of this transhumanistic reset get their just deserts. You might want to rethink your own position and decide who your real enemy is, as well.

As the Q-ers say: Where we go one, we go all.

Think about it.


115 posted on 06/20/2021 8:07:10 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

There’s no change to any DNA with the mRNA vaccines. The mRNA can’t even get into the cell nucleus, and even if it could, there is no known method by which it would perform cuts or inserts into the DNA there. And if it did by some miracle, with nothing to direct changes, they would result in cell death or termination by NK T-cell lymphocyte.

And yes, they are vaccines. If you want to restrict the definition of “vaccine” to just a killed or attenuated pathogen, you’re excluding most vaccines including whooping cough and tetanus. Few vaccines today use the old method of an attenuated or killed pathogen. Those were gen 1 vaccines. Gen 2 vaccines include conjugates, subunit vaccines, toxoids, and others. And gen 3 vaccines including the mRNA platform are also vaccines. The basic concept remains the same. The technology has continued to evolve since the 1950s. The first conjugate vaccine (hib) was licensed back in 1987. There’s no pathogen. A piece of the original bacterium’s shell is attached to a protein carrier. It’s still a vaccine.

Not sure where you’re seeing a change to the definition of herd immunity, but all of my education pointed to the herd immunity threshold as being 1-1/R0 and it is reached when immune individuals (regardless of how they became immune) reach that ratio within a given population. The ability of an infectious agent to continue transmission depends upon the availability of hosts it is able to infect. If it cannot infect a given host (for whatever reason), that host exists outside the vulnerable group.


116 posted on 06/20/2021 11:22:59 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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