But those similarities end when you start digging into things like the composition of those surface glycoproteins, let alone the shell structure, and the lifecycle of infection.
Posted on 05/03/2021 12:45:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Yep, 2A is on every Covid thread, beating the drums for those that would enslave us. Strangely enough, I do not see him on 2nd amendment threads...… strange that.
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LOL! Good one!
The powers that be actually cured the common flu during this pandemic, without even knowing it! Incredible! The numbers are in the baseline. Now how can that be? These ppl at the top are wizards!
As a retired teacher I found the first 10 years of teaching I generally used up about half my sick day (5). The last 22 years...well, I accumulated over185 sick days. Think I must have come in contact with almost all the variant s of the common cold
I’m not educated to your level, so appreciate your insights. I’ve always understood that bacterial infections can be treated (to an extent) to attack the bacteria itself whereas viruses are not directly attacked but fought off over time by the body. Antivirals help to prevent replication or the ability for the virus to attach to certain cells, but the body still has to fight it off naturally.
Regardless, a pill isn’t going to be a magic bullet. There’s too much disinformation out in the ether right now. Basic biology, stuff that was taught as a freshman in high school in many cases, is being butchered. Anyone who paid attention in high school, a stretch nowadays, would know that this vaccine doesn’t make you immune, it helps your body fight it off. Immunity happens AFTER your body fights it off, not because of it.
Who taught you biology they failed you terribly. Viri can be killed. They also can be inhibited from reproduction. The same way an antibiotic inhibits bacterial reproduction and thus ends the infection. Antiviral drugs inhibit the virus ability to reproduce at the cellular level and thus ends the viral replication chain and the ensuring infection. Same effect different mechanisms. Protease inhibitors work by locking the spike protein from invading the cell and the virus they cannot replicate. The drugs that have turned HIV from a 100% killer in to a treatable condition are all PI drugs. Covid has HIV spike proteins how they got there is a matter of debate but fact is they are there. It is no shock and to be expected that protease inhibitors would also work on Covid with the identical spike proteins. It’s not some vast conspiracy it’s just science. Pfizer is testing the equivalent of penicillin for Covid nothing more nothing less. Leave the crap politics aside they have no place in science. Pfizer is testing a solid scientific approach to stopping infection.
“why does the COVID 19 virus look like a step-brother to that HIV virus?”
Because It has HIV spike proteins and with those the ability to infect any warm blooded animal with ACE2 receptors on it’s cells. How the spike protein got there is up for debate but no known natural cross gene transfer has been documented from an HIV type virus of human or simian form into a corona type virus this is the first documented occurrence. It however makes for a damn fine biological weapon vector given that this bug can infect and be harbored in every warm blooded animal in earth plus some bacterial forms and also reptiles and amphibians. The simplest answer is almost always the correct one. In this case the simple answer is less than 100 meters from the initial outbreak location is one of China’s Biolevel four weapons labs that has a history of losing containment you do the short math.
Thanks. I recently searched to see if I could find an image of the HIV virus.. I did a double take because first look, the image looked so much like COVID-19.. and yet the image of HIV virus was never promoted as is the COVID-19... the similarities are striking..
Is it a combo pill with the zinc, hcq & antibiotic (so they don’t have to call it that) or is it something as bad as the vaccine?
With bacteria, you have a living organism, so you can disrupt the life processes happening within it to cause it death. But that still doesn't get all of the bacteria because doing so would require such a massive flood of antibiotics that you would almost certainly kill the person you're giving them to. What they do is kill enough to bring the infection to a manageable level so the immune system can do its job and stay ahead of the infection, so the person survives.
With viruses, you don't have a life process to disrupt (because they are not alive), but rather a replication process. You can attack that with drugs that block cell entry or that block replication inside cells. It - again - doesn't completely halt the infection on its own. It brings the infection to a manageable level so the immune system can stay ahead of it, so the person survives.
The mechanism is different, but the effect is the same. Whether the infection is bacterial, viral, fungal, or whatever else, the goal is to provide assistance to the immune system; not replace it. In all cases, it's the immune system that finishes the job, regardless of the pathogen. In fact, some therapies are entirely designed to assist the immune system in identifying the pathogen (or cancerous tissue). This is commonly used when the immune system is capable of handling the problem itself, but it lacks the ability to consistently identify the problematic components.
"Basic biology, stuff that was taught as a freshman in high school in many cases, is being butchered."
Oh my goodness, you're so right. High school teachers across the country have to be in tears right now at what's being presented online as "fact". It's really sad, honestly.
"Anyone who paid attention in high school, a stretch nowadays, would know that this vaccine doesn’t make you immune, it helps your body fight it off. Immunity happens AFTER your body fights it off, not because of it."
Sort of. So the way most vaccines work is by presenting an antigen (i.e. something the body can recognize as foreign and that triggers an immune response) in some way. That can be through the use of a weakened or death pathogen, or by attaching the antigen to a harmless virus or bacteria, or by attaching it to something else, or by causing some of your cells to produce the antigen themselves.
Regardless of how the antigen is presented, the process from there is the same as any infection. Macrophages and neutrophils will recognize the antigen as foreign and attack it. Since there are so many suddenly present, macrophages will signal dendritic cells that there's a problem they can't handle, so dendritic cells will collect some of the antigens and transport them to lymph nodes. Once there, a complicated process will kick off production of T cells specific to that antigen. Those T cells will then locate B cells that match the antigen and trigger them to begin mass self-replication and antibody production.
All of this happens regardless of whether the antigen came in on some SARS-CoV-2 virions, or through one of several different types of vaccines. What you then have are T cells, B cells, and neutralizing antibodies specific to that antigen which are active and ready to combat any exposure to SARS-CoV-2. This is why the Israelis have data demonstrating that the COVID-19 vaccine they've deployed (Pfizer's mRNA vaccine) block 94% of asymptomatic infections and 97% of symptomatic infections.
It's not a perfect silver bullet, but it's an incredibly powerful tool. All of Israel's neighbors are seeing their COVID-19 cases and deaths either hold steady or rise. Israel has seen daily new cases drop from 10,000 per day to 50 per day, and deaths from 100 a day to 1. 1 death in the whole country. Even with all the variants out there circulating, COVID-19 has lost the war in Israel thanks to vaccination. We're about a month or so behind Israel in terms of how much of our adult population is vaccinated. The sooner we get to where they are, the sooner we can put this all behind us.
But those similarities end when you start digging into things like the composition of those surface glycoproteins, let alone the shell structure, and the lifecycle of infection.
Maybe go back and read some of my other posts or the replies to my posts? Please don’t sink to the level of insults. It’s not necessary. I admitted I’m not an expert, but I took AP Bio in HS and passed several college-level biology classes with straight As. I know what I know, I just didn’t express it the same way others have. It’s been over 20 years since I’ve been in a bio lab. Excuse me for being human.
I wish there was a lot more news coverage of therapeutics than “the shot”.
I am a retire RN ..I worked a med/surg floor and came in contact with every known pathogen ...I cared for and stareted IV’s on HIV pts before we even had a name for it..I took care of active TB pts before they were diagnosed.. (maskeless )...never needed a sick day so only took those famous “mental health days” when I needed a break... The human immune system is a miracle ... I am not hiding in my basement from this either.. I go maskless unless forced to wear one.. BTW I have COPD and am overweight and old..I have to LOL at people wearing masks in their cars or walking our side alone or with a friend.. We have raised a generation of snowflakes ..hiding from a viris that has a 99.979 recovery 😳
Good post
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