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Alternate juror talks about the Chauvin trial verdict and the testimony that "really got to me"
CBS News ^ | 4/22/21 | JAMIE YUCCAS, ANALISA NOVAK

Posted on 04/22/2021 9:08:22 AM PDT by Meatspace

Lisa Christensen sat through every minute of the trial of Derek Chauvin as prosecutors and the defense each made their case in the killing of George Floyd.

She was an alternate juror, so she did not have a role in the verdict, but in an exclusive interview for "CBS This Morning," she said she was happy with the jury's decision to convict Chauvin after weeks of hard testimony. Christensen said she was reluctant to be on the jury when she was first called up.

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KEYWORDS: alternatejuror; chauvin; fakenews; minnesota; seebsnews; thenarrative
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To: Meatspace

“She was an alternate juror, she did not take part in deliberations and thinks she knows enough about the case to pass judgment.”

As an alternate, she would have been a witness to deliberations


21 posted on 04/22/2021 9:35:54 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Meatspace

Perhaps juries should not only have to say guilty or not guilty, but to specify the fact set upon which a guilty verdict is based.

“609.19 MURDER IN THE SECOND DEGREE
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§Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:
(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting; or...”

What was that felony offense?

Why didn’t the prosecutor charge for it?

Why didn’t the judge insist on the prosecutor charge Chauvin for a specified felony before charging Chauvin for second degree murder?


22 posted on 04/22/2021 9:36:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Meatspace

What really got me was his hollering and hollering and hollering. Can’t holler if you can’t breathe.


23 posted on 04/22/2021 9:40:35 AM PDT by bgill
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To: cuban leaf

“on his back”

It is possible to reduce the ability to breathe by putting pressure on the back. I think that is why knee to the side of the neck is used.


24 posted on 04/22/2021 9:43:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Meatspace

“I was worried about, you know, whatever the verdict may be if some people felt strongly on one side, other people felt strongly on the other side. So no matter what, I felt like somebody wasn’t going to be happy,” Christensen told CBS News’ Jamie Yuccas.
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Translation....”I had already made my mind up before the trial started that I would be voting to convict because I knew my life and property would be in serious peril and there would be endless burn/loot/murder that would result.”


25 posted on 04/22/2021 9:44:40 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Meatspace
This trial was held in Hennepin County.

Hennepin and Ramsey County include most of the Minneapolis and St. Paul metro area.

Both counties voted more than 70% for Biden.

Trump won the rest of the state by 230,000 votes.

Surprisingly, both and Hennepin and Ramsey are below 14% Black.

Ramsey is over 15% Asian.

The Twin Cities are more than 65% white.

26 posted on 04/22/2021 9:46:24 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Meatspace

I’m guessing you have never been on a jury


27 posted on 04/22/2021 9:49:20 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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To: Meatspace

“It was emotional. I think my eyes teared up a couple of times, so especially seeing it from different angles and things,”?”

Ruled by her mommy emotions. Women have no business on a jury like this. This is for men. No more than I have on a jury for securities contracts fraud.


28 posted on 04/22/2021 9:51:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: cuban leaf

This wasn’t a jury trial, this was thirteen people accused of murder by a mob and the mob said twelve of them could go free if they send the other one to jail.

Whether or not Chauvin actually killed or even partially contributed to the death of George Floyd was irrelevant in the trial. The state AG decided the outcome of the case before it started. The city decided the outcome of the case before it started. Most importantly the mob decided the outcome of the case before it was decided. The judge wasn’t going to go against all of that, and even Chauvin knew the score going in, otherwise he would have hired more lawyers. Why spend what little money he has on a show trial when there’s not even a chance that it will matter?

What mattered was if Chauvin was a sufficiently sympathetic character to get all twelve jurors to agree to risk their own families’ safety by letting him walk, or getting a smaller number of jurors to have all of the mob turned and focused onto them by holding out until a hung jury was called.

Chauvin wasn’t a sympathetic character, heck if it wasn’t for the police union covering over his prior use of force incidents and the city agreeing to let the union cover over use of force incidents by cops, Chauvin probably wouldn’t have been on patrol that day.


29 posted on 04/22/2021 9:51:53 AM PDT by jz638
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes. anything’s “possible”.


30 posted on 04/22/2021 9:51:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Also...

Second degree murder requires intentional murder.

How do you commit intentional AND unintentional murder on the same victim?


31 posted on 04/22/2021 9:52:14 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“Christensen said she locked eyes several times with Chauvin during the trial due to seating arrangements. She said she was “pretty uncomfortable””

Female logic.


32 posted on 04/22/2021 9:52:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: hinckley buzzard

Lord have mercy.
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Obviously one of the tens of millions of Americans with an IQ in the double digits.


33 posted on 04/22/2021 9:54:26 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Liberals destroy everything they touch.)
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To: cuban leaf

If I were a cop, I’d never engage a black person. Those days are gone - until after the collapse.
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It’s actually worse than that since the decisions in these types of cases have all kinds of implications that go well beyond the event itself. Very simply, this affects all kinds of relationships.... employee-employer, teacher-student, neighbour-neighbour and just the casual encounter that one can have with anyone on a day to day basis. Since there is the potential for serious problems if one side (and we know who that is) screams racism, people will look at it as being not worth the trouble and risk... and concoct all kinds of reasons to not engage. It’s very sad....


34 posted on 04/22/2021 9:55:07 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: dfwgator

Liberal Women.
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Yep!


35 posted on 04/22/2021 9:57:03 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Liberals destroy everything they touch.)
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To: bgill

“Can’t holler if you can’t breathe.”

Careful, your critical thinking skills are showing.


36 posted on 04/22/2021 9:57:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: PGR88
It is Interesting, but we all know CBS News would not have a juror on who did not confirm to their desired narrative.

Where would they find one?

37 posted on 04/22/2021 9:58:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Meatspace

She moved faster to the TV cameras than she does even to the all you can eat buffet


38 posted on 04/22/2021 10:01:26 AM PDT by Az Joe (FREE CHAUVIN!)
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To: hecticskeptic

Yep. I will add, though, that if I were a cop I’d be actively pursuing a different career. And I suspect a lot of that is going on. Why defund the police when you can just watch the force organically shrink due to attrition.

I’ll now be carrying everywhere I go. It’s a new world.


39 posted on 04/22/2021 10:04:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We killed our economy and damaged our culture. In 2021 we will pine for the salad days of 2020.)
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To: Brian Griffin
What was that felony offense?

Murder in the third degree and manslaughter.

40 posted on 04/22/2021 10:04:38 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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