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Lawmakers ask Biden to issue waiver to make Covid-19 vaccination mandatory for members of military
cnn.com ^ | March 24, 2021 | Ellie Kaufman

Posted on 04/10/2021 7:18:05 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: TigersEye

That concept should and will be met with serious resistance.

It’s illegal, UnConstitutional, and UnAmerica .

Requiring or forcing anyone to get vaccinated is a very serious action that will be dealt with harshly.

I won’t stand for it. The outcome will lead us down a road of madness.
Forced abortions.
Forced surgeries.
Perhaps even forced “Mental Health Treatment” for Trump supporters or people on the Right.

The vaccines for Covid-19 must remain a personal choice.


41 posted on 04/10/2021 8:28:51 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, purposefully muddied language. To demand that service members be directed/required to sign a “Waiver of Informed Consent” is frankly actionable, requiring them to receive medication that is NOT APPROVED by the FDA, but only allowed to be given through Emergency Use Authorization (which waives the LIABILITY OF THE MANUFACTURERS in the first place— a very GOOD reason for service people to NOT waive their Informed Consent).

If they do not give Informed Consent, they cannot be compelled to get an experimental medication. You are quite correct, this is a demonrat criminal forcing submission yet again. In a population that does not need a vaccine— period- they are not in the risk groups (unless they are in the medical divisions of the military, for institutional protection of others, especially if they are deployed to aid US citizens at risk, our over 65 people.).


42 posted on 04/10/2021 8:29:09 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: David Chase

FWIW the H.R.-1 bill now working its way through the Senate should garner the same reaction from the American people.

We will see. A stolen election hasn’t stirred up much dust.


43 posted on 04/10/2021 8:39:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Will the Younger Dryas Impact you? )
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To: ransomnote

The Kodex has not been officially accepted as law by any nation or as official ethics guidelines by any association.

It was a judge and some prosecutors at Nuremberg that needed a law to prosecute Nazi doctors. So they wrote their own code, outside all legal authority.

Then they prosecuted under that code and hung a bunch of Nazis.


44 posted on 04/10/2021 8:39:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ransomnote

This is totally anectodical, so take it for what it’s worth. Our oldest is nearly completing a five-year stint in the Army National Guard in a military intelligence unit. At a company-wide meeting two months ago, they were offered the jab - no takers. He said the captain was matter-of-fact, that the jab was not mandatory but was available, and without any volunteers at the time, moved on to other business.

His ETS date is in 24 days. His last drill is this weekend. As proud as we were to see him join, successfully complete basic and AIT, and as proud as we are that he will be honorably discharged, we’re glad he’s getting out. It’s just too weird these days. His unit was originally set to deploy in April but that was delayed until late June. Before all of this, he wanted to get deployed, to utilize the skills for which he was trained, but now, he’s looking forward to separation.

It’s a shame - his unit was relatively new when he joined four and a half years ago, and they’re retention rate is close to zero.


45 posted on 04/10/2021 8:49:37 PM PDT by IMTOFT (At least I'm enjoying the ride...)
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To: Mariner

The Kodex has not been officially accepted as law by any nation or as official ethics guidelines by any association.

It was a judge and some prosecutors at Nuremberg that needed a law to prosecute Nazi doctors. So they wrote their own code, outside all legal authority.

Then they prosecuted under that code and hung a bunch of Nazis.
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I really don’t see the downside. Like I said, we support such opposite views I see no point in continuing our discussion.


46 posted on 04/10/2021 8:53:33 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

I’m thinking that violates the Geneva convention. And used against our own military....


47 posted on 04/10/2021 8:54:53 PM PDT by meyer (I swear to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: ransomnote

A problem with not having the troops vaccinated is that there ae many countries that will not allow unvaccinated people past the border. Unvaccinated travelers arriving from Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, the European Union, Israel, Kazakhstan, Norway, Northern Ireland, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, most of central America, or the United States must present a negative COVID-19 PCR test result conducted within 72 hours prior to travel. It would put a huge cost on the US government to secure those tests and places the troop on a non-worldwide status. Some require a test again 3 days later prior to entry. That is enough to be discharged with no questions asked. Or at best allowed to finish term. And the reason for the discharge is going to be tricky and will probably be general with honorable conditions at my guess.

wy69


48 posted on 04/10/2021 8:59:08 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Ken522
"This shot is NOT a vaccine - it is an experimental “treatment” ...."

Yes indeed....
Particularly since they are all over the place saying that the vaccine is not permanent and has to be repeated over & over...

This is beginning to sound almost CIA-ish...
We've heard about the government doing this kind of stuff in the past...

Fortunately, me and the sheeple are not wearing tinfoil hats...
All we want is more stimulus...More stimulus...More stimulus...
Baaa.... Baaa....
Obey!... Bow down!... Obey!...

49 posted on 04/10/2021 9:06:33 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Samuel Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: meyer

And it’s not a “Vaccine” by definition. If anything, the so-called vaccine itself is a bioweapon. It’s effectiveness hasn’t been proven. Its safety hasn’t been proven.

Mandating it to the military is the equivalent of mandatory exposure to mustard gas as far as I’m concerned.

Prove it’s safe and effective first.


50 posted on 04/10/2021 9:13:27 PM PDT by meyer (I swear to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: whitney69

First, the military isn’t anybody’s military but the United States. Do they have any business in those countries in the first place.

Second, if they do, then they’re armed and will enter those countries. If it’s not important that they be there, then we shouldn’t be sending them there in the first place.


51 posted on 04/10/2021 9:16:19 PM PDT by meyer (I swear to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: ransomnote

I would think having a reservoir of people without the vaccine would serve as a business continuity function, such that if vaccinated people did get problems, we’d still have half that could serve.


52 posted on 04/10/2021 9:21:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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A problem with not having the troops vaccinated is that there ae many countries that will not allow unvaccinated people past the border. Unvaccinated travelers arriving from Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, the European Union, Israel, Kazakhstan, Norway, Northern Ireland, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, most of central America, or the United States must present a negative COVID-19 PCR test result conducted within 72 hours prior to travel. It would put a huge cost on the US government to secure those tests and places the troop on a non-worldwide status. Some require a test again 3 days later prior to entry. That is enough to be discharged with no questions asked. Or at best allowed to finish term. And the reason for the discharge is going to be tricky and will probably be general with honorable conditions at my guess.

wy69
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These ‘vaccines’ are made based on data China provided to us. Why would they release the Wuhan bioagent and then help us learn how to combat it? :(

People living in foreign countries who want to be saved can wave Covid-19 tests. People who want to fight us can ‘do without’ our ‘papers’.


53 posted on 04/10/2021 9:22:51 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ConservativeMind

ConservativeMind to ransomnote
I would think having a reservoir of people without the vaccine would serve as a business continuity function, such that if vaccinated people did get problems, we’d still have half that could serve.
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I do cringe when I read that, for example, in New Jersey, ALL first responders are vaccinated. And I think all medical staff. *shudder* Prayers up for all involved!


54 posted on 04/10/2021 9:24:07 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

vaccine depopulation 3 to 6 months.

https://www.brighteon.com/2622bcc4-ccbf-4a5a-b98d-31334a47dd61


55 posted on 04/10/2021 9:38:09 PM PDT by hotdogjones (Study shows possible link between blood pressure meds and severe cases of COVID-19)
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To: ransomnote

I read that up to 50% of nurses in MA have refused the vax as well. Sounds like the nurses and troops in close quarters, no social distancing, realize it’s not nearly as bad as the MSM and Dems are making it.


56 posted on 04/10/2021 10:13:19 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: ransomnote

The vaccine industry is evil pure evil always is and always will be

Their primary agents of forcing is the Democratic Party and the leftist morons of the world


57 posted on 04/10/2021 10:44:57 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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To: ransomnote

It’s not a “Rule” they are talking about here, it can’t simply be “waived”. F&@$king wankers.

It’s black letter Federal Law. Nobody can be forced to take experimental drugs against their will. It is also highly illegal to coerce people to take it.

The individual has to be completely informed of the risks. I’m not antivaxxer or anything like that.

But them’s the facts.


58 posted on 04/10/2021 10:48:42 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: ClearCase_guy
[,,,] requesting that he issue a "waiver of informed consent" to make getting vaccinated against Covid-19 mandatory [...]

Feels like a triple negative, or something. Not clear writing, in my opinion. In simple language, the proposal is just to make the vaccine mandatory for all military?

Reading comprehension.

"To waive" means to "renounce or forego."

So the Lawmakers are asking Biden to forego the (otherwise applicable) requirement that the government ask for the servicemen's (informed) consent to be injected.

Regards,

59 posted on 04/10/2021 11:01:19 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ransomnote

So, not their bodies, not their choice?


60 posted on 04/10/2021 11:05:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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