Posted on 04/08/2021 1:19:48 AM PDT by conservative98
Wishing you well...and, praying you have not, already, or will not contract china flu.
WE KNOW!
I'll paste a whole page of them if it means you won't mention it anymore!!!
Thank you, because of family issues, brother and sister in cancer remission, and another one a 3 year transplant survivor, I felt it necessary if I wanted to interact act with them.
Obviously a very carefully focus-group-tested phrase.
(News stories / newsvertorials on “White Evangelicals leading resistance to vaccine” and similar stories, indicate they are trying a “persuade the rubes / dazzle them with *SCIENCE*” together with “have sports stars and celebrities make it seem like the happening thing to do” approach.)
But for a disease where death is only 0.2% or something overall, and that is clustered among the elderly with comorbidities, and was spiked by Dem governors ordering c00f patients into nursing homes to goose the deaths, to allow mail-in-voting to steal the election, why the INSISTENCE?
Influenza kills a similar number of the elderly, yet they don’t even specifically track that, let alone make flu jabs necessary.
Great points... grey.
You’re lying through your teeth as usual.
It’s not “I don’t like people posting who disagree with me.”
It’s that I don’t like trolls spreading open lies over and over and over again.
While pretending to look down on their superiors, and deliberately mischaracterizing those who oppose the jab as uninformed drunken redneck incestuous hillbillies, or similar.
And using “Who, ME?” when called out on their insults.
If, instead of mindlessly crowing, about “I F’ING LOVE *SCIENCE*!” you actually cite the studies, and can discuss the relevant portions of the studies, with an eye to looking out for systemic error, sloppy statistics, deviation for the mRNA jab from accepted practice on prior vaccinations, addressing the wildly different levels of rigor on assigning c00f deaths vs. assigning negative sequelae to the jab, and the socio political ramifications of the entire push, then do so.
Otherwise, you will be deservedly flamed.
So much for being “open-minded”.
Send me the source code, I can use it to avoid seminar posters Glowies, and infiltrators from the administration.
And trolls.
Maybe ten-cent army (Chicom)?
God knows they’ve infiltrated enough Universities.
You know, like the chair of chemistry at Harvard.
He’s selectively applying which event he applies the null hypothesis to.
For infection, null hypothesis is to assume all adverse events and death are due to the c00f.
For the jab, the null hypothesis is to assume all adverse events and death are non-existent (hysteria, rumor); and only if forensically validated, are they even to be admitted to exist; and even then, it is assumed they must be unrelated to the jab.
Because *SCIENCE*™.
Alex Berenson:
Want real-world evidence that vaccine side effect databases do not capture ANYTHING close to the real number of adverse events, even extremely serious ones? Here goes.
Britain has a system similar to VAERS, with voluntary reporting of post-vaccine side effects.
Just a week ago, the British reported 30 cases of severe blood clotting problems, including 7 deaths, after 18 million doses of the @AstraZeneca vaccine. This is a very serious and unusual problem and it should pop out to doctors.
Yesterday, the Brits updated the number...Now they report 79 events and 19 deaths out of 20 million doses - a near-tripling of events and deaths in a week.
Did all those extra problems happen in the last week/2 million doses?
No. They are coming now because physicians are finally LOOKING for and reporting them...But if a voluntary reporting system can’t catch more than a fraction of cases like this - cases where young people are dying bizarrely days after getting vaccinated - what are the odds it will pick up the deaths of older people dying in more routine ways like strokes?
TL: DR - do NOT trust articles comparing side effect rates in VAERS and similar voluntary reporting systems to background rates of disease in a population, because voluntary systems capture only a fraction of potential problems, even deadly and obvious ones.
Make a broad-brush statement against ideological enemies, one which discredits then (emotionally) in the ear of the hearer in advance, and which is demonstrably untrue.
If they ignore it in the interest of peace, not feeding the troll, the narrative against them is advanced ("silence gives consent").
If they address it, it clutters up the thread, AND allows the troll to say "I didn't mean you, what does it imply that you came out of the woodwork to reply so strongly?
You know, like if I started calling jab fanatics pedophiles, in league with so many kiddy-diddlers associated with high places in DC.
Sod off with your strawmen, vermin.
You’re lying again about the Israeli study, see post #90 in this thread , wasn’t that the post?
This is the email about the Israeli study from a physician that I posted links to yesterday:
I’m not sure you saw this but, there was a gigantic study post EUA
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765
It shows that the vaccine has a minimal impact on disease. The studies read like something out of an ad agency touting “90% effectiveness”, etc.
The absolute benefit in risk is far less than 1%
There were 39 deaths DUE TO COVID ONLY in the non vaccinated group and 20 deaths due to COVID in the vaccinated group.
I had to go to the study appendix to get this information, it was buried there where one had to dig to get it.
The deaths number is on page 27
They didn’t put this information right into the study because the tiny numbers are so shocking.
For example the number of deaths FROM COVID ONLY in the vaccinated group was 0.0003% and the number of deaths in the unvaccinated group was 0.0006%
The overall reduction in risk for COVID ONLY DEATH was 0.0003%
Put another way, 29,800 people needed to be vaccinated to prevent one death from COVID during the study period. There were 596,000 people in each group.
What I am mainly emailing you about —
This study did not reveal the absolute mortality figures in each group, i.e. death from all causes. THEY ONLY COUNTED DEATHS “FROM COVID”
They had this data, but DID NOT PUBLISH IT. If this data was favorable, they WOULD have published it.
This fact means that it is almost certain that more people died of all causes in the vaccinated group.
Accepting the vaccine almost certainly increased the risk of death.
Re: 226
If only it were that easy. I have seen people argue logically, passionately on both sides of the vaccine issue.
And both sides make it personal. Including you.
You’ve essentially admitted that if you disagree with someone based on the facts, that it could be considered a lie on their part. Your choice.
Just understand that people that don’t agree with your viewpoint will be on FR.
And that’s the way it is.
Re: 227 - Perhaps.
When you consistently argue in good faith and don’t make it personal.
show me documentation that people are not dying of the vaccines. Miscarriages are up 466%. I think babies are people.
Yeh, sure. 🙄
Kind of ironic, isn’t it?
And the arrogance of it.......
Our study suggests...
estimated benefits.....
There’s some rock solid science for you.
Thanks but no thanks.
This is a bizarre, lunatic, totalitarian cult.
It’s not about vaccines or protecting people’s lives—it is instead profoundly anti-science, and is only focused on absolute govt control of every aspect of our lives. https://t.co/ORSgtJoGLZ— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) December 16, 2020
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