Fauci: Moderna vaccine 'effective for 6 months'

NHK ^ | 2 hours ago 4/8/21

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"And how long does it take CDC to investigate, determine, and report the cause of an event?"

CDC doesn't do that; a medical examiner does, typically with the input of the physician who performed any treatment on the deceased. It typically takes a few days or weeks to complete an investigation, depending on the complexity of the case and the medical history of the individual.

"So by your logic, there will be no 'evidence' for ten years."

No, by my logic, there would be massive reports pouring in from doctors, nurses, and medical examiners from all over the US, Europe, and Israel if the vaccines were causing all these deaths and other claimed problems. But here we sit, without a single medical examiner or doctor anywhere in the US or the UK who's pointing to a single person's death and saying "yes, a COVID-19 vaccine caused that death".

Not a single one.

[maddog55]

VACCINE:A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen’s structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection.

Covid shots don’t do this.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

COVID-19 vaccines absolutely do stimulate antibody production and cellular immunity through T-cell action against the pathogen. 94% effective in preventing asymptomatic COVID-19 infection and 97% effective preventing symptomatic COVID-19 infection per the data coming out of Israel. And they’re incapable of causing severe infection.

And where are you even coming up with this out of date definition anyway? It’s about 40 years out of date, considering how many other types of vaccines exist today.

I linked my sources. Where are yours?

[bagster]

So this insinuation (there's that word again!) that they're hiding any serious reactions to the vaccines? Doesn't hold much water.

No, not insinuation. Pretty much saying it right out of my mouth.

CDC provides cover for people like YOU who can then say on the internet, "There is no evidence reeeeeeeeeeee!!!"

Plenty of people keeled over D E A D after taking the vax, and other bad things too.

These facts are not in dispute. To say they are, is to lie.

If they were, the doctors and medical examiners doing the actual investigations would be speaking out.

You only listen to 'your guys', apparently. Many medical people have and ARE speaking out. Their voices are silenced by termination, censorship, and other means of silencing them. And its not the CDC doing it. Its Facebook, YouTube, media, and politicians. Ask yourself why?

Unless the claim is that every doctor in every area of the country are all "in" on this suppression campaign together. And the families of all the supposed vaccine victims; all "in" on the conspiracy as well?

I have seen the personal testimonials of actual people who have said their loved ones got the vax and BLAM. These, too, are being suppressed on social media.

Surprising that all this stuff got by you. I guess you have to be willing to look for it. Helpful hint: You can find much of it on FR.

To say there is no evidence, is ridiculous. You should stop saying it. It takes away any credibility you might have as a proto-scientist.

[Robert A Cook PE]

But!

Will the government (or my company, or my cruise ship, or my airline) MAKE me take it?

[bagster]

Pandemic, thank you Dr. Fauci.

Pandemic, thank you Dr. Fauci/China/Democrats/Deep State.

Better.

[bagster]

What was the previous CDC definition of 'vaccine' and when was it changed? And why?

Now you got homework.

#EducateYourself

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"Plenty of people keeled over D E A D after taking the vax, and other bad things too."

Plenty of people keeled over D E A D after taking a nap, and other bad things too.

Something bad happening following something else does not necessarily mean that the event that happened earlier must be the specific cause. This is the essence of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy.

"Many medical people have and ARE speaking out."

Which ones are stating that their own patient died from a COVID-19 vaccine? Oh, none? Really? 110 million Americans have taken a COVID-19 vaccine and ZERO doctors have come out to say "I lost a patient to a COVID-19 vaccine"? Weird...

"I have seen the personal testimonials of actual people who have said their loved ones got the vax and BLAM. These, too, are being suppressed on social media."

Did those personal testimonials include documented evidence of a CAUSAL link between the two events? Or just more "Bob had a vaccine and then later on something bad happened, so I'm going to blame the vaccine!"?

"To say there is no evidence, is ridiculous."

There is no evidence that any COVID-19 vaccine available in the United States today has caused any death of any individual in the US or the UK. Literally none. If there were any, you would present it. But you can't. Out of 110 million Americans who've had a COVID-19 vaccine, you can't find a single doctor who points to a specific patient and says that patient died because of a COVID-19 vaccine. Not one.

Provide a list of doctors with a list of patients who have died from a COVID-19 vaccine. If thousands have really died, there should be some easy examples with documented proof. So go ahead and provide that proof.

[bagster]

CDC doesn't do that; a medical examiner does, typically with the input of the physician who performed any treatment on the deceased. It typically takes a few days or weeks to complete an investigation, depending on the complexity of the case and the medical history of the individual.

Okay, then VAERS should be full of 'events' with EVIDENCE of whether the vax caused the events or not. But somehow its not.

Bro. You're failing bigly. Can't have it both ways.

Now, I gotta run. I'm sure we'll get to argue about this again. This seems to be a full-time gig with you. See ya round the covid campfire.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

You: "VAERS should be full of 'events' with EVIDENCE of whether the vax caused the events or not. But somehow its not."

The people who actually run VAERS: "VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine." Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data

Clearly you're not understanding the VAERS data, what it is, and how it's actually used. But you're certainly smart enough to understand what the link I've provided many times is saying, so I'm left to ask if you're simply choosing not to acknowledge what the people who run VAERS say about the data in it, what it means, and how it should be used.

[JesusIsLord]

Fauci: Moderna vaccine 'effective for 6 months'

Translation: ...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[bagster]

Plenty of people keeled over D E A D after taking a nap, and other bad things too.

What kind of latin is there for the logical fallacy of comparing a nap to an experimental drug?

Hoc Ibdum Bolshitum?

(just had to squeeze that one in there)

*waves*

[Bulwyf]

You shouldn’t encourage the brain dead.

[Georgia Girl 2]

But the damage to your immune system is forever. 🙄

[The Sons of Liberty]

Fauci: Moderna vaccine 'effective for 6 months'

Why do I suspect this declaration is based MORE on Fauci's desire to maintain power and the spotlight, than on actual scientific evidence?

[bagster]

"VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine."

Exactly.

And yet you have the nerve to say there is no evidence vax caused the death. CDC not saying vax is the cause does not mean there is no evidence of cause. I'm not sure what that is in latin. Something, I'm sure.

How can you fix your mouth to say that? Even CDC can't say that, by your own link's admission.

You need to stop talking out of both sides of your neck. Goodbye for real this time.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

There is no evidence of any damage to your immune system from any of the COVID-19 vaccines.

This is fearmongering nonsense.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

Still just waiting for 1 doctor, anywhere in the US or the UK, who says “this patient died because of a COVID-19 vaccine.” 1 doctor. Or 1 medical examiner. I’ll take either.

110 million Americans have had a COVID-19 vaccine. If the vaccines are killing a bunch of people, it must be so easy to find one single doctor who can say that they have determined that a specific death was caused by a COVID-19 vaccine. Just produce that. You’re making the claim, so produce even the tiniest shred of evidence to support it.

[Georgia Girl 2]

There’s evidence of all kinds of bad stuff including death. Where have you been? Oh wait getting your vaccine. Its a depopulation tool not medicine. Its not even approved by the FDA. They are experimenting on you.

[Georgia Girl 2]

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