VAERS is not attempting to prove causation which is why despite 3 months of vaccine administration with 2,509 VAERS after vax deaths and 205,000 reported VAERS adverse events they have not established any causation for any of them.
It is very difficult to prove a vaccine caused the effect which is why they rely on looking to “detect patterns.” Autopsies are rarely conducted and as medical examiners have stated you cannot determine a vaccine caused a death unless it occurs immediately after injection (anaphylaxis)
VAERS data going back for decades is clear they have never had even a fraction of the 205,000 VAERS for any other vaccine. These numbers are historic.
The best way to measure the vaccine’s contribution to after vax death is to compare the results from this vaccine to previous vaccines and, in fact, in VAERS recently released Standard Operating Procedures for the covid vaccine they actually spell that out “Perform comparative analysis with other vaccines (e.g., compare frequencies and proportions with influenza vaccine) • Analyze reporting rates and compare reporting rates with other vaccines or background rates.”
Here are the comparative vaccine numbers:
Flu vaccine: 1/1/2020 - 3/11/2021 (covers 64 weeks) Over 200 million doses administered
12,491 adverse effects reported to VAERS; 159 deaths. 66% of senior citizens get a flu shot. Adults 18-64 Years Old Least Likely to Get Flu Shots (35.7%)
Covid vaccine: 12/20/2020 - 3/19/2021 (covers 12 weeks)
Over 140 million doses administered
205,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS; 2,509 deaths.
https://twitter.com/richzucker/status/1374030141618200577
Data indicates that 1/3 of the deaths after covid vax occurs in the first 48 hrs. post vaccine.
https://twitter.com/birb_k/status/1376152228268888069/photo/1
Prophylactic vaccines are given to healthy people. If they kill or seriously harm people who were not likely to contract the virus to begin with and would be expected to recover even if they did then they are not a satisfactory solution.
By the way, just as an aside, I read an interesting article from 2017 about the new mRNA technology. The author was part of the development and very upbeat about the prospects for the tech. But, he specifically made the point that it would be used first in a disease like cancer because of the significant adverse effects risk which is acceptable in a fatal disease, but would never be approved by the FDA for a prophylactic vaccine. Fast forward 3 years and the pandemic and it is being used despite significant adverse effect risk; not to mention unknown at this point long term risk.
In the category of long term risk this research demonstrates that the “spike” protein the vaccines produce itself may result in the pathogenesis of certain diseases.
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/1/36/htm
“It is generally thought that the sole function of viral membrane fusion proteins is to allow the viruses to bind to the host cells for the purpose of viral entry into the cells, so that the genetic materials can be released and the viral replication and amplification can take place. However, recent observations suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein can by itself trigger cell signaling that can lead to various biological processes. It is reasonable to assume that such events, in some cases, result in the pathogenesis of certain diseases.
Our laboratory only tested the effects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in lung vascular cells and those implicated in the development of PAH. However, this protein may also affect the cells of systemic and coronary vasculatures, eliciting other cardiovascular diseases such as coronary artery disease, systemic hypertension, and stroke. In addition to cardiovascular cells, other cells that express ACE2 have the potential to be affected by the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which may cause adverse pathological events. Thus, it is important to consider the possibility that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein produced by the new COVID-19 vaccines triggers cell signaling events that promote PAH, other cardiovascular complications, and/or complications in other tissues/organs in certain individuals (Figure 3). We will need to monitor carefully the long-term consequences of COVID-19 vaccines that introduce the spike protein into the human body. Furthermore, while human data on the possible long-term consequences of spike protein-based COVID-19 vaccines will not be available soon, it is imperative that appropriate experimental animal models are employed as soon as possible to ensure that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein does not elicit any signs of the pathogenesis of PAH or any other chronic pathological conditions.
PAH “outbreaks” have occurred in association with exposure to certain drugs or toxins [39]. A major outbreak of PAH occurred in 1965 and was associated with aminorex, a weight-loss stimulating drug [39,40]. Approximately 0.2% of people who took this drug developed PAH [40]. An epidemic was observed two years after the introduction of aminorex, and half of the patients died 10 years after the epidemic [39].
In conclusion, the recent advancement in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-based COVID-19 vaccine development is exciting and has shed light on how to end the current pandemic. These vaccines should benefit elderly people with underlying conditions if they do not exhibit any acute adverse events. However, we need to consider their long-term consequences carefully, especially when they are administered to otherwise healthy individuals as well as young adults and children. In addition to evaluating data that will become available from SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals as well as those who received the spike protein-based vaccines, further investigations of the effects of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in human cells and appropriate animal models are warranted.
My advice to anyone who wants to get a clear picture of the deaths after the covid vax should go to the VAERS Wonder site and pull up the deaths and read the specifics. I have read hundreds of them...very sad.
If you would hypothesize a causation factor of any kind, we could look for it.
The historic numbers have been accounted for, but only because we cannot discern a pattern but never mind, how does it kill? (The 1/3 of deaths in first 48 hours is a something of a pattern if it stands scrutiny. I agree that every one of the stories is heartbreaking.)
The mechanism your excerpt suggests sounds very much like the mRNA vaccine works as proposed, so the suggestion is that vaccine kills by eliciting an immune system response.
Right?
Cathi if you could look at this link, sorry if it is too deep in medical terminology, and I’m not sure I would be very good in translating it into layman speak, but this connection between Fenfluramine derivatives and PAH is a perfect example of what I am asking for. The patterns were so clear and they were able to identify four categories of risk for many substances. The link:
https://err.ersjournals.com/content/22/129/244#:~:text=Fenfluramine%20derivatives%20like%20aminorex%20are,disease%20%5B9%E2%80%9311%5D.
I am not worth it so don’t waste your time on me, you are so kind. Please just keep your eyes on it and link me if something sounds enlightening such as your last excerpt. As I said I am all over the Oxford/AZ blood clot thing but that is more of a conventional vaccine and I understand it much better than the Moderna etc. I did look at all the links you provided and will check again on those Twitters to see if anything appears. If the smoking gun is found we will hear about it.
Oh I almost forgot! You said, “Prophylactic vaccines are given to healthy people. If they kill or seriously harm people...” This is perfectly reasonable to all. I see that as a separate issue and secondary issue. Debating whether the vaccines are necessary is just like debating whether we should have locked down and mandated masking. Well, it is simply too late for that now. If you are going to warn anyone about the safety of these vaccines, you must be specific and scientific. In other words, whether it should have or not, (It should NOT have!) the burden of proof is now upon anti-vaccine. God’s will be done.