Did you look at the results of the real-world example in Israel that I posted? It showed 94% to 96% efficacy across all age groups who got it.
...the VAERS data that you disparge is the exact data the the CDC uses to examine safety when the drug is in clinical use.
Nonsense. At best it serves as an alert system to tell the CDC to examine more deeply. They then do detailed case-by-case reviews to evaluate safety. They would be nuts to rely on VAERS as anything more reliable than an internet poll.
The trials deliberately limited the enrollment of people over 75 which is a common thing to do in a clinical trial for obvious reasons.
Can you point me to a reference for this?
The fact that there weren't too many people in the Moderna study over 75 means what to you?
Again, what's the point of all this data lawyering?
The vaccines have been shown in trials and proven in real life applications to be both safe and effective for adult populations, including those over 75. Do you think seniors should take the vaccine, and if not, why not?
You’re hopeless...:-)
I read all the Israeli data and opinion. It was the early leader in vaccinating.
Berenson: @pfizer claim Israeli data show their vaccine cut Covid deaths by 97% when vaccinated people made up almost 1/2 of all Israeli Covid deaths in February and “fully vaccinated” people about 20%.”
“Not published, much less peer reviewed. No actual numbers of deaths or severe cases. No confidence intervals. No explanation of the adjustments for age or comorbidities that must have been made to get to the numbers they claim.”
Pharmaceutical Equity Research Analyst:
“All this real world vaccine data is garbage. They are essentially comparing unvaxxed people in the peak of the winter surge to vaxxed people after the virus is gone. If they don’t get the answer they want, it’s adjusted with hazard ratios (age, socieodemographic, age, illness, etc.) to match what the dodgy clinical trials found, and voila the headlines concur with the clinical trials, which did not include the old and the very ill.”
“Public Health England study. 48% increase in infections after pfizer first dose, and 44% increase with AZ. Second Pfizer dose is 30% increase. Increasing susceptibility and reactivating dormant virus are the likely mechanisms in my view.”
You ask can I point you to a reference about deliberately limiting older clinical trial participants....?????
Did you even read my post? I gave you TWO references. The Journal of American Medical Association and Moderna itself and now I just gave you a third one above.
Then you ask what it means to me that there weren’t too many over 75 in the trials. Are you kidding me? Why do you think they instituted a world wide vaccination campaign? Because the average age of people who have died in the U.S. from (or with) covid is 79. That is the most vulnerable group and the vaccine trials deliberately limited them so as not to drive the results down.
Finally you ask me if I think seniors should take the vaccine. I think EVERYONE should become as informed as possible and then make whatever decision they think is best for them.
“Informed consent”