My point is that it is very difficult to PROVE that vaccines cause death. You can’t prove it with an autopsy (and btw very few of these deaths are autopsied anyway.) So what definitive evidence are you looking for? As the medical examiner indicated you can only look for competing reasons for the death and if there are none “That lack of answers may help them (the family) understand if the vaccine was a possible cause.”
The CDC isn’t claiming that the vaccines did not cause anyone’s death. They are saying “To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.” For them to conclude that the vaccine is responsible for deaths they would need a “pattern” and “to date” they have not “detected” any.
I have also given you verbatim Norway information. They did conclude that the vaccine was contributing to the deaths of the elderly. They accepted the “pattern.” They stopped giving the vaccine to elderly (75 years old) people.
Alex Berenson (this morning): “The #covid mRNA vaccines now account for more side effect reports to VAERS since December than EVERY OTHER VACCINE COMBINED in the last year.”
“And 8 times the number of death reports.”
I like the kind produced by rigorous, randomized, double-blind clinical trials, such as the ones done on the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines. They tracked tens of thousands of people who got either the vaccine or a placebo and compared outcomes between the two groups.
You can find full details on each of these studies here: COVID-19 Vaccines.
Unlike some ad hoc analysis of the self-reported VAERS data, the trials track two distinct populations throughout the entire process. If receiving the vaccine increased the likelihood of death relative to the control group it would show up in the numbers. It didn't.
Don't like clinical trials? How about real world scenarios? Israel monitored their vaccine program and matched about 500k recipients with an equal number of people with similar demographics who didn't get the vaccine. The results are very impressive and indicate no problem with vaccine safety and in fact a very significant reduction in mortality in those who got the vaccine.
BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Mass Vaccination Setting
They are saying “To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.” For them to conclude that the vaccine is responsible for deaths they would need a “pattern” and “to date” they have not “detected” any.
How many times do you need to see CDC's statement that they go well beyond looking for patterns and actually examine the evidence on a case-by-case basis? And when they do so they aren't looking for "proof", just evidence, which they haven't found?
"A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths."
Why can't you acknowledge that?
They did conclude that the vaccine was contributing to the deaths of the elderly...
They said
"concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients."
Those are common side effects of many vaccines and it may be prudent to limit vaccinating old, frail patients for anything.
“The #covid mRNA vaccines now account for more side effect reports to VAERS since December than EVERY OTHER VACCINE COMBINED in the last year.”
“And 8 times the number of death reports.”
So? Given the huge number of vaccinations and the attention they've gotten I'd fully expect more people to report some weird event that occurred after the shot. That's not an indication of anything other than the awareness people have around this vaccine.
This kind of self-reported data with no control group to compare it to is useless for drawing conclusions. What we need to know is just what we saw in the clinical trials and the Israeli study; what were the outcomes in people who got the vaccine vs those who didn't. VARES is less than useful in providing that information.