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Immunologist: Pfizer, Moderna Vaccines Could Cause Long-Term Chronic Illness
The Defender: Children's Health Defense ^ | 02/12/2021

Posted on 02/12/2021 8:47:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: blueunicorn6

Reminds me of some sneaky little kid who tries to sucker punch you when the teacher is not looking, and then when you try to hit them back, yells “TEACHER, TEACHER”.


41 posted on 02/12/2021 12:32:48 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: gas_dr

You got off easy. One of the most prolific posters here told me “you should burn in hell and i wouldn’t spit on you to put out the flames.”

Ironically it was a vaccine post from years ago when I said the polio vaccine was a good thing. This time. I’m not taking these first gen vaccines. One, I already recovered from covid with my usual “cure” for colds with some warm whisky and lots of bed rest. Two. Something is just wrong when government and big tech are pushing it so hard.


42 posted on 02/12/2021 12:33:01 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

I acknowledge your post but deny the mischaracterization of the content.
I again acknowledge your bullying and ongoing insults.
I again request the mods to take note.


43 posted on 02/12/2021 12:33:06 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Organic Panic

That’s pretty awful. Honestly I know this behavior and it is getting off easy. But here’s the deal. I incurred a proper soft ban two months ago. A good call by the mods. I did my penance and went on. But for the fact that for something less egregious i get this guy saying things all I ask is for equal enforcement.

As for what you say it is a totally logical and reasonable point.


44 posted on 02/12/2021 12:39:41 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

You posted to him in post 12. Therefore you started the conversation. So are you requesting that you can post a comment to him but him not to you? That’s seems a little unfair. Granted, I can’t read some of the later posts since they have been removed.


45 posted on 02/12/2021 12:59:33 PM PST by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: wgmalabama

The posts that were removed he called me among other things a third grade drop out and mentally ill in clear contravention of the rules of free republic. I knew posting his factual inaccuracies would draw a severe ad hominem attack. I keep hoping we can have reasonable discourse. However his rhetorical style simply crosses the line.

The reason that i reported his abuse and applaud the mods for removing the posts were because of the personal attacks. On previous threads he has also been equally as bullying and personally attacking

Truthfully i got appropriately thunked on the nose several weeks ago. I learned where the line was and was overly emotional. Now that I know where the line is I simply request equal treatment.

I have been here 20 years as of a week ago. This year has been the toughest with emotionally charged issues. I learned my lesson. We can have reasonable discourse and even emotional. But not personal. And not unlike PDJT if someone want to bully me or take a proverbial swipe. I wlll answer.


46 posted on 02/12/2021 1:11:41 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: blueunicorn6
The MO goes like this: Do a drive by sleazy hit with some vague accusation. When you ask them to clarify, they just keep repeating more vague accusations. Then when you get P**** OFF and and have had enough, they act all innocent and pious and call the mods when you take the gloves off.

The funniest one to me is when they said I had a low IQ, was uneducated, a liar, a deceiver, could not understand English, could not understand simple scientific things, and on and on, .... When I pointed out that those were "attacks", their response was: "They carefully reviewed each one and verified that each was true and so they were "facts", not "attacks". You can't make this stuff up.

47 posted on 02/12/2021 1:12:05 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: wgmalabama
his factual inaccuracies

Try to find their post where they actually pointed out a factual inaccuracy I made. You won't be able to, because it is pure made up fiction that only exists in the person's head. That happens over and over again. "You claimed X". "I did? Where?", "You know you did, stop being a denier". "But where? What post?", crickets

48 posted on 02/12/2021 1:19:39 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: gas_dr

The last year has seen much uncivil behavior. Lockdowns, economy, election, ....

The world is full of deception, anger, lies, corruption... it’s making people become unfocused. We are losing our compass.

Best of luck.


49 posted on 02/12/2021 3:10:44 PM PST by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: ThunderSleeps

The TRIALS on the Moderna vaccine are scheduled to end in January 2023. The vaccines and the patients are the trial. There is a reason why they use extended periods of time to make sure treatments and drugs are safe.


50 posted on 02/12/2021 3:14:41 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: BiglyCommentary

It is my opinion that we (collectively) do not know or have been provided enough information to give informed consent. Everyone can make their own decisions on what level of data where they are willing give consent and receive the vaccine / EUA biological. I have the luxury to not be in a high risk group so don’t feel rushed to decide.

I have given up arguing with people on FR about this issue. It’s like the religion threads. My comments, positive or negative will not change anyone’s opinion and will at most just make me and others have Ill will towards our brothers in Christ and brothers in the Constitution.


51 posted on 02/12/2021 3:19:46 PM PST by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: BiglyCommentary

Plus, not a doctor.


52 posted on 02/12/2021 3:21:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: volunbeer
I am not against vaccines, but I have decided to wait for the Johnson and Johnson (traditional vaccine) based on my own research.

mRNA vaccines have no track record so we'll just find out as it goes.

53 posted on 02/12/2021 3:23:47 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: JayGalt

Polio, smallpox, german measles, whooping cough, even measles vaccines have their place, and I would take them today. But Hep B on birth, Papilloma, or even Meningitis are too much for children. As is the grouping of different vaccines together, instead of spreading them out to minimize the risk to children.


54 posted on 02/12/2021 3:40:21 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: gas_dr

They are using HCQ in a nebulizer, it supposedly stops CV dead in its tracks. Of course along with Zinc, more vitamins and a broad spectrum antibiotic if someone is sick.


55 posted on 02/12/2021 3:42:58 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: Glad2bnuts
In MODERNA'S own words:

There is typically an extremely high rate of attrition for product candidates across categories of medicines proceeding through clinical trials.

These product candidates may fail to show the desired safety and efficacy profile in later stages of clinical trials despite having progressed through nonclinical studies and initial clinical trials.

A number of companies in the biopharmaceutical industry have suffered significant setbacks in later-stage clinical trials due to lack of efficacy or unacceptable safety profiles, notwithstanding promising results in earlier trials.

Most investigational medicines that commence clinical trials are never approved as products and there can be no assurance that any of our current or future clinical trials will ultimately be successful or support further clinical development of any of our investigational medicines.

56 posted on 02/12/2021 3:47:03 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: SeekAndFind; RatRipper

“No. J&J uses is using an adenovirus to deliver the DNA which then gets made into mRNA which then makes the protein that our bodies will react to.”

the J&J vaccine directly induces the immune system to manufacture antibodies (as well as T-cell responses)to the covid spike protein gene spliced into the adenovirus vector ... there is NO mRNA involved ...


57 posted on 02/12/2021 3:58:51 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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