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To those still using Windows 7 - which browser do you recommend ?
2/12/21 | sushiman

Posted on 02/11/2021 9:14:19 PM PST by sushiman

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To: daniel1212

Firefox is a memory pig. Always #3 behind Chrome and the New Edge for memory consumption and speed.


121 posted on 02/12/2021 4:54:58 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: daniel1212
and unless the MS magisterium makes an exception then you cannot legally transfer and activate your Windows to another PC

Doesn't apply if you are buying a used Dell (as in my example) that came with Windows 10.

122 posted on 02/12/2021 4:56:56 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: raf1961

Thank you. I will give that a look. Probably time to look into a new computer as well.


123 posted on 02/12/2021 5:02:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Everyone knows)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you!


124 posted on 02/12/2021 8:18:09 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: daniel1212; All
IIRC Windows 95/98 (which was sppsd to be 97 but became 98 due to delay) did display it on the desktop, and there is a tweak to do that with W/10, but two simple ways is to paste winver in the Run command (hold down Windows key and r key together) and hit OK. Or paste msinfo32 in the same.

Thanks for all the advice, folks! But I confess that my question was half-ironic.

My asking, "How am I to know which version of Windows I have / How can I find out?" is analogous to my 95-year-old maiden aunt asking, "The auto repairman says I need a new 'carburetor' - whatever that is! I suspect he's lying; how can I check that myself?" and my replying with some perfect technical explanation.

You folks don't seem to appreciate the irony: Anyone asking such an elementary question simply won't understand your answer.

Regards,

125 posted on 02/12/2021 10:35:42 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
Thanks for all the advice, folks! But I confess that my question was half-ironic. My asking, "How am I to know which version of Windows I have / How can I find out?" is analogous to my 95-year-old maiden aunt asking, "The auto repairman says I need a new 'carburetor' - whatever that is! I suspect he's lying; how can I check that myself?" and my replying with some perfect technical explanation. You folks don't seem to appreciate the irony: Anyone asking such an elementary question simply won't understand your answer. Regards,

But how am I to know which poster is asking something half-ironic (or 25% or 75%)? How can I find out? šŸ™ƒ

126 posted on 02/13/2021 5:20:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: BiglyCommentary
and unless the MS magisterium makes an exception then you cannot legally transfer and activate your Windows to another PC

Doesn't apply if you are buying a used Dell (as in my example) that came with Windows 10.

That is a different story than taking the OEM OS on your Dell and legally transferring and activating it on another PC.

If you have a device that came pre-installed with Windows 10 (for example, Surface Laptop 3 and Dell XPS 13), then you are dealing with an "OEM" license. In this case, the product key isn't transferable, and you are not allowed to use it to activate another device. - https://www.windowscentral.com/how-transfer-windows-10-license-new-computer-or-hard-drive

127 posted on 02/13/2021 5:43:46 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

True, but if you buy a used system that you are going to use that has Windows 10 installed, it is a moot point.


128 posted on 02/13/2021 6:03:35 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary
You are making a false apple to orange comparison, i.e. comparing Edge without any extensions to FireFox with extensions. The new version of Edge will support not only MS extensions but Chrome based extensions also. In my experience, there are more extensions and addons for Chrome based browsers than there are for FireFox.

Wrong: Chrome based extensions come far behind in the number and breadth of functionality that legacy Firefox accumulated over the years. In totality it cannot even match the functionality that Tab Mix Plus provided ( PC World said that "With Tab Mix Plus, Firefox tabs go past the obvious and into the indispensable... it's hard to imagine how you lived without it.") along with Colorful Tabs. Show me the Chrome extension than enables multiple tab rows, or adjusts max or min tab width, or even a simple option like enabling Ctrl+Tab to toggle btwn more recently opened tabs, rather than the ridiculous through all tabs (there is an extension that is sppsd to do this but apparently it does not do that, but sets up alternative keys, and I have not figured it out yet). Or adds Copy Url on the right click menu for a inactive tab. Or that keeps the Find bar open across all tabs, Or any of the other functions I listed (and there are more), with the possible exception of the Open With extension I found.

129 posted on 02/13/2021 6:42:25 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: BiglyCommentary
Firefox is a memory pig. Always #3 behind Chrome and the New Edge for memory consumption and speed.

The depends on who is doing the testing i suppose: https://www.pcmag.com/news/chrome-edge-firefox-opera-or-safari-which-browser-is-best

However, I was comparing legacy Firefox with modern browsers, and I would rather have a utility truck for doing work than a sedan.

130 posted on 02/13/2021 6:43:52 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Hidden Chrome option that enables stacked tabs.

chrome://flags/#stacked-tab-strip

I have used and liked TabsOutliner. Why would I want 300 tabs open? To me that means one is doing something wrong. Prefer to have tabs that are open, or bookmarked, or grouped in a side window, all easily visible and accessible. Can make that side window any size I want.


131 posted on 02/13/2021 7:16:21 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: HP8753

I have a new Apple Laptop sitting nearby never used yet... because I’m still using my Vista! LOL....


132 posted on 02/13/2021 8:19:49 AM PST by caww (ā€œFor the peopleā€ and ā€œFor the childrenā€ - signals we're about to be scammed)
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To: daniel1212
hrome based extensions come far behind in the number and breadth of functionality that legacy Firefox

So you are comparing the number of extensions for an OLD, legacy version of Firefox. Firefox is up to version 85. Many of those extension don't work on the new version that started in version 57. You really want to stay stuck on an old antiquated browser?

133 posted on 02/13/2021 10:13:31 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: BiglyCommentary
Hidden Chrome option that enables stacked tabs. chrome://flags/#stacked-tab-strip

I have tried those which come default on Vivaldi 3.6. Inferior to multiple tab rows.

Why would I want 300 tabs open? To me that means one is doing something wrong.

But no means. If did not have so many it would hinder productivity. In one browser used mainly for forums and related research than I have tabs of sites I want to have handy, plus ones I am engaged with or want to check on. On another browser for shopping I have many tabs for items I regularly buy (bike parts, etc.) depending on the deason. On another browsers I have tabs for bills to pay and good movies (hard to find) when I too tired. On another browser I mainly just do Quora, and with my stiff arthritic fingers I do a lot of copying and pasting in response to similar questions, adapting them as needed. When you have a lot of irons in the fire, and can easily fit 6 rows of identifiable tabs, 25 across, differently colored according to source (as seen in post 105) on a 23" monitor, then it is far quicker to have everything handy to quickly access. Thank God.

134 posted on 02/13/2021 6:20:57 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: BiglyCommentary
So you are comparing the number of extensions for an OLD, legacy version of Firefox. Firefox is up to version 85. Many of those extension don't work on the new version that started in version 57. You really want to stay stuck on an old antiquated browser?

Yes sir, for sure. I am on two of them every day for they far surpass others (apart from Waterfox classic, and Basilisk) in functionality and only a few sites need a modern html5 rendering engine for now. But you can use others as needed, thank God.


135 posted on 02/13/2021 6:26:35 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Thats why you have bookmarks. So you don’t have to consume the memory and other resources to keep 300 tabs open. Even if a browser does some type of lazy, deferred loading, that still consumes resources. I can have all those in a side window and then instantly click or enter a keyword and then click. Why would I want the top of my browser window wasted by 6 or 8 rows of tabs?


136 posted on 02/13/2021 6:29:16 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: daniel1212
and only a few sites need a modern html5 rendering engine for now

There is a reason why Firefox redesigned their internals - better use of multicore processors, better security, a faster rendering engine, sandboxing. I want to go into the future not get stuck in the past.

137 posted on 02/13/2021 6:32:30 PM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Republican Wildcat

There was an error message regarding free upgrade from 7 to 10. Apparently, MS has stopped providing free upgrades.


138 posted on 02/13/2021 8:10:53 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I always refer to Otto Preminger's quote about actors: "Actors are like cattle!")
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To: BiglyCommentary
Thats why you have bookmarks. So you don’t have to consume the memory and other resources to keep 300 tabs open.

Bookmarks?! Do I have bookmarks, with abundant folders for organization, and hardly want to add more. The time it takes to drill down and find and open the bookmark i can have already found many pages that are waiting for me in just few seconds. Even if you want about 160 documented sources on Covid19, or about 200 allegations of voter fraud. all copied with formatting and posted to render accordingly? Give me a about 30 seconds.

Even if a browser does some type of lazy, deferred loading, that still consumes resources. I can have all those in a side window and then instantly click or enter a keyword and then click. I have 32GB or RAM and a 4.0 quad-care Ryzen CPU, thank God, and with one click can restart the browser which clears things up and restores all my tabs just as they were. Only slow down is when I first click on one it reloads it.

Why would I want the top of my browser window wasted by 6 or 8 rows of tabs?

Less than 2 inches? Why not? But that is you. For me it is like having the particular paint colors out when doing a painting, not stored in a drawer, so let me do the work I use the PC mainly for, and the tools to do it, though you find no need for such.

139 posted on 02/13/2021 8:22:10 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: BiglyCommentary
There is a reason why Firefox redesigned their internals - better use of multicore processors, better security, a faster rendering engine, sandboxing. I want to go into the future not get stuck in the past.

Like I said, I want a utility truck, not a spared-down sedan that goes faster but take a whole lot longer to get work down, if it can even enable it. Chrome does not even offer "View selection source" as Firefox does. If you do not know why that is so useful then that is part of our divide.

140 posted on 02/13/2021 8:25:47 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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