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Re Mike Pence. White Hat? Black Hat?

I have gone back and forth on this.

1. Trump is a brilliant man. Why would he choose Pence if the man was a back-stabbing DS asset? What advantage did it give him? I’ve yet to see Pence publicly cause harm to Trump or the Administration. Has he and I missed it?
2. The Chris Miller, Pence clip- interesting. I would not equate Pence with military operations. Did he have a military background or schooling? Regarding Miller’s compliment on mentoring, was this sincere? Sounded so. What purpose did it have as this speech did not get a lot of press. So again, what purpose did it serve Miller to be anything other than sincere?
3. Lin Woods tweet about Pence. He says Pence is a Black Hat not to be trusted. Why? Is Miller then an idiot, easily taken in? As much as I respect Woods, I’ve never heard of him till the Sandman case. How much of what Lin says can be trusted in this instance?

Ok. Stepping back and taking a big breath.

Churchill possessed remarkable insight and led his country through its most bleak period. He is an inspiration that I take comfort from especially when he spoke of propaganda campaigns.

Churchill said that truth was so precious, that it MUST be protected by a bodyguard of lies. I agree. It logically follows that if we are debating what information/individual can be trusted, then the enemy must be as nearly confused. So if this is the case, as Q really likes to call DS stupid, then long live all their confusion right through to Jan 20th.


820 posted on 12/25/2020 5:00:10 PM PST by navymom1
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To: navymom1

3. Lin Woods tweet about Pence. He says Pence is a Black Hat not to be trusted. Why? Is Miller then an idiot, easily taken in? As much as I respect Woods, I’ve never heard of him till the Sandman case. How much of what Lin says can be trusted in this instance?

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My take on Lin Woods tweet is that he expected Pence to take some action on Dec 23 based on the rumors that Pence - if a patriot - would contest the electoral college votes submitted by the States. I don’t think Wood has made this claim before the 23rd and my guess it was a direct response to Pence not acting.

That being said, there is no reading of the constitution that says Pence has to act exactly on the 23rd and it seems there are differences of opinion whether this is the best time for Pence to act. So that’s my reading of Wood’s tweet.

And who knows, perhaps the tweet is merely a diversion or ruse?? Certainly Wood does not appear to be an insider to the inner workings of Trump’s plan...


852 posted on 12/25/2020 6:14:11 PM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: navymom1
1. Trump is a brilliant man. Why would he choose Pence if the man was a back-stabbing DS asset? What advantage did it give him?

I believe there was a deal made and Pence was not presented as a back stabbing DS asset but was a sleeper or later flipped. President Trump and team likely knew what Pence was but they white hats didn't admit they knew. Accepting Pence as VP hamstrung President Trump because he needed a fighter in his corner. It was secretly a DS plan to have Trump's replacement already in place.

Now, Pence is their plan if they can't steal the election and Biden is their man if they can. PS: They can't steal the election; that's why Pence is important to dig on and understand.

I’ve yet to see Pence publicly cause harm to Trump or the Administration. Has he and I missed it?

Pence thought he was under cover and has been playing it very safe because that's the only way he is of strategic value to the DS. At the Bush funeral, he was made aware there was some issue against him, likely his wife's actions. The 2020 SOTU was the first time Nancy Pelosi realized that Pence would help them and Chris Miller's comments were the first time Pence was publicly acknowledged through comms to be unworthy.

So Pence's actions have been behind the scenes. He wears a Covid mask more often than most and pushes the vaccine, but it's likely he's doing more behind the scenes. The fact that Nancy didn't know he was DS seems to mean that Pence has never had comms with her and likely doesn't trust traditional communications (white hats would find out he's in comm with black hats).

So he hasn't delivered on harm publicly YET; his job now is to get people to trust him, take the vaccine, and step in to help remove Trump or if Trump is removed.

2. The Chris Miller, Pence clip- interesting. I would not equate Pence with military operations. Did he have a military background or schooling?

In all of the digging I did, I never came across any assertion that he had military experience or training. His son is also named Mike and the photo Pence is shown in riding in the back of a convertable with 2nd Lt. USMC refers to his son. Oddly enough, it seems like information about his son has been scrubbed from Google. DuckDuckGo had family pictures etc.

Regarding Miller’s compliment on mentoring, was this sincere?

Courage: Christopher Miller served in the military for a total of 29 years. 11 of those years were spent serving as a Green Beret. Miller commanded 5th Special Forces Group in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a defense contractor.

Wisdom: He received a Master of Arts in national security studies from the Naval War College in 2001. He also graduated from the College of Naval Command and Staff and the Army War College.

A combat veteran of Miller's achievement would have an entirely different, higher standard for courage than civilians who have not served. It's inconceivable to me that Christopher Miller could consider Mike Pence's tepid, lackluster career as a politician a mentor in terms of wisdom and courage. 

Miller would never entrust implementation of spec ops to anyone of Pence's background.  So no, Miller was not sincere.

Sounded so. What purpose did it have as this speech did not get a lot of press. So again, what purpose did it serve Miller to be anything other than sincere?

I think Miller did it to put a spotlight on Pence, similar to the way President Trump says in his tweets about traitor Nellie Ohr, that she's a lovely woman. When it isn't time yet to say what one thinks, one can say the opposite in such a way that serves the same purpose.

At this point, not much MSM coverage is given to any Trump official. The Deep State would probably not want that speech to get any attention, just as they blacked out coverage President Trump's recent two speeches.

3. Lin Woods tweet about Pence. He says Pence is a Black Hat not to be trusted. Why? Is Miller then an idiot, easily taken in? As much as I respect Woods, I’ve never heard of him till the Sandman case. How much of what Lin says can be trusted in this instance?

I formed my opinion without having read Lin Woods tweets first. My opinion started early; my personal read of Pence is discordant; his eyes glare and his mouth smiles. He seemed weak, and then he received a white envelope along with other traitors at the Bush Sr. funeral. He has a reputation for calm but I believe he has a substantial temper.

Miller is not easily taken in, he's part of the Trump administration and has to comply with whatever deal or goals that currently restrains President Trump for now.

BardFM has a theory that Wallstreet told President Trump that he had to accept Pence as VP (this doesn't mean he was out as a black hat then) or they would crash the market until there was nothing left to resist Chinese take over. That's probably at least one of multiple ways they forced Pence upon President Trump, all done in a nice way of course.

Miller is no idiot. He would not have said what he did unless given the green light to shine a spotlight on Pence.

Frankly I think many white hats have been biting back "saying things" to the traitors in our government. I believe the 2020 SOTU was the first time I saw President Trump, and first Lady Melania, allow their true feelings about the swamp they've had to socialize, even before he began his 2016 campaign, show on their faces. Both looked enraged.

It logically follows that if we are debating what information/individual can be trusted, then the enemy must be as nearly confused. So if this is the case, as Q really likes to call DS stupid, then long live all their confusion right through to Jan 20th.

If people knew Pence was Deep State, he would be less successful in getting them "shot" (vaccinated). It's important the public wake up and realize they can't trust Pence and they must not get shot.

A key threat is if comms are interupted, and/or Nancy goes forward with her expressed plans to set up a presidency even if Trump remains in office, the public must not believe Pence. The example I've been giving is if Trump were "mysteriously taken out of the way" and it's blamed on the Red Dragon (China) then Pence assumes the presidency and America falls. Biden is Plan A, Pence is Plan B.

863 posted on 12/25/2020 7:00:49 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: navymom1; ransomnote
I’ve yet to see Pence publicly cause harm to Trump or the Administration.

Pence: I knew Flynn lied to me about Russian contacts when he was fired

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Vice President Mike Pence told CBS News' Margaret Brennan Thursday that he knew former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had lied to him about his contacts with the Russians when Flynn was fired in February. Brennan spoke with Pence during the vice president's surprise trip to Afghanistan.

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Andrew McCabe said “First we f*ck Flynn, then we f*ck Trump".

Pence was part of the f*ckery.

That's all I need.

But wait. There's more.


885 posted on 12/25/2020 7:39:50 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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