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To: cgbg
You are kicking up dust again—you know what I am talking about.

Are you with us or against us?

I with "us", thus why I post. You mentioned that the machines can be fooled with. Fine, let's accept that. Georgia, by court order, had to buy a system that would produce an auditable printed ballot record showing the selections and intention of the voter. This was because Georgia's previous system had no way for the voter to be sure their selections were represented by the machine, and there was no way to audit the electronic tabulation of the results.

Georgia went with a "BMD", or a "Ballot Marking Device" to accomplish this. The vendor was Dominion. Say what you will about whatever the machines might have done or been made to do, the paper ballot records were hand counted in Georgia, ALL OF THEM, to check and see if the Dominion system had defrauded the Georgia voter, at least as concerns the Presidential Election. When you count the paper ballot records, Joe Biden still wins in Georgia. We need to move on to other areas because any reasonable person should be able to agree that even if the machines were compromised, the paper ballot records could be checked to determined if that occurred. But they were checked and the hand recount did not determine a different outcome, at least in Georgia and for the Presidential race.

I AM for us. I can see how stupid it is to continue to claim that Dominion fraud in Georgia and really how destructive that is especially with the upcoming Senate runoffs.

I'll even defend Raffensperger, at least as regards the ordering of hand recounting 100% of the ballots to prove that the system he purchased in Georgia accurately represented the apparent will of the voters. I say apparent because maybe the ballots that were counted included ballots that should not have been counted. But that would not be Dominion voter fraud.

166 posted on 12/06/2020 10:52:34 AM PST by Religion and Politics
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To: Religion and Politics

Do you actually believe that a paper ballot audit can detect vote switching by machine?

Really?

It is not just that I don’t believe it—I find it hard to believe that _you_ believe it.


167 posted on 12/06/2020 10:55:47 AM PST by cgbg ( Remember 1876--we _can_ do this!--Biden--Office of the Prisoner-Elect)
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To: Religion and Politics

If the machines were set to fractionalize the votes for biden at say 110%,as long as Trump won by less then 10% it would show a biden win.Then the necessary number of additional ballots could be added to the stack in case of hand recounts.
The problem was ... Trump was winning by more then the pre-set fraction and the machines would say he won. Counting had to be stopped and the numbers changed before that happened.
A prepared number of extra ballots were standing by ready to go but because of the red wave it wasn’t going to be enough.
They were forced to use the extras to generate votes for the machines to count, then they had to find more to make the hand count stacks hit the numbers.

It all would have run hidden in the background if the numbers hadn’t been so one-sided.
There a bit more to it but this is the base of the fraud.

The question now is .... will truth prevail ?


207 posted on 12/06/2020 12:49:21 PM PST by CFW
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