Posted on 11/28/2020 9:13:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Did the mail-in vote count (2,589,242) in the presidential election in Pennsylvania exceed the actual number of ballots sent to voters (supposedly 1,823,148) and were 1,126,940 votes "created out of thin air"? No, that's not true: The Pennsylvania Department of State's website for election returns shows that about 2.6 million mail-in ballots had indeed been counted as of November 27,2020. More than 3 million voters had requested mail-in ballots as of the October 27, 2020 deadline, according to a news release the same day from Governor Tom Wolf's office. The 1,823,148 number appears to be the number of mail-in ballots requested for the June 2, 2020 primary election in Pennsylvania, not the November 3, 2020 election.
The claim appeared in an Instagram post (archived here) published November 26, 2020 showing a Rogan O'Handley tweet that read:
Today at the Pennsylvania election hearings, we learned that 1.8 million absentee ballots were mailed out for the 2020 election
Do you know how many were counted?
2.5 million
I'm no genius, but I'm pretty sure ***700,000** phantom votes is evidence of
Widespread FRAUD
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
Similar claims were made in an Instagram post on November 26, 2020.
(Source: Instagram screenshot Thursday, November 26 13:31 UTC 2020)
The same false claim was later tweeted by Senator Doug Mastriano (archived here) and subsequently retweeted by President Trump:
The 1,126,940 votes were created out of thin air. I won Pennsylvania by a lot, perhaps more than anyone will ever know. The Pennsylvania votes were RIGGED. All other swing states also. The world is watching! https://t.co/zmnk34Ny23 -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 28, 2020
President-elect Joe Biden received 1,995,691 mail-in votes, according to The Pennsylvania Department of State elections website on November 27, 2020. President Donald Trump received 595,538 in mail-in votes. Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen received 24,783, for a total of 2,616,012 mail-in votes. The website states that "These vote totals do not include any votes from mail ballots received between 8 p.m. on election day and 5 p.m. the following Friday."
The website's numbers show that the claims made in the above Instagram posts don't stack up because they fail to state the correct number of mail-in ballots requested: more than 3 million.
The number "1,823,148" probably originated when someone tried to look up the number of Pennsylvania mail-in ballot requests and landed on a page listing statistics for the June 2, 2020 primary election in that state, for example a page like this (archived here). It shows a dataset provided by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania described as:
This dataset describes a current state of mail ballot requests for the 2020 primary election. It's a snapshot in time of the current volume of ballot requests across the Commonwealth.
Specifically, it contains a table that lists the exact number of mail ballot requests for that election:
As you can see, this is not data about the November 3, 2020 Presidential election.
SNOPES??
Yer’ kidding us here right? LOL!
I think your right. his account was hacked. No freeper would use Snopes the pedo dude
Bear in mind that the Biden campaign encouraged mail in voting, while the Trump campaign urged against it.
What matters is that the lawyers presenting the case to the Supreme Court will have the facts right. And they will. This is just entertainment.
LOL!
Is the governor of PA lying?
Yes. Because he perhaps was in on it and got $$$ bonus
RE: Yes. Because he perhaps was in on it and got $$$ bonus
So, his claim one week before the election that 3 million mail-in ballots were sent is a lie?
RE: I think your right. his account was hacked. No freeper would use Snopes the pedo dude
Again, Snopes simply backed up the claim of the original article which REFERENCES the official PA websites.
You keep harping about Snopes and ignoring the main article. WHY? Is it because you can’t refute their numbers and have to resort to attacking a FReeper? You disappoint me.
And the candidate that campaigned from his basement whose been indicted by the ukraine gov’t and supported by the likes of george soros got more votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of US politics. What a crock of S#^T!
RE: What matters is that the lawyers presenting the case to the Supreme Court will have the facts right.
Well, I hope so. But this particular claim from various sources that keep circulating is questionable. Trump’s lawyers either have to:
1) NOT repeat the claim that 1.8 million mail in ballots were sent and 2.5 million mail in votes were received.
OR
2) Prove that the numbers in #1 above are RIGHT.
OR
3) If they cannot prove #2, NOT use #1 as their evidence.
RE: And the candidate that campaigned from his basement whose been indicted by the ukraine gov’t and supported by the likes of george soros got more votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of US politics
The above statement is IRRELEVANT to the points made in this article. No sane person ever questioned the statement you made. This article is about the FIGURES being presented.
Can you show me ONE Snopes political fact check other then "this one" that was true? Just show me one
Hes a never trumper just like you seem to be.
I would never trust anything he says.
Snopes is a joke, and I take no joy in posting this, but Rudy’s numbers may have been incorrect, per this article and the update at the bottom of it.
I have to go for the night but hope you can clarify this one way or the other. Thanks.
You’re sighting Snopes as a resource on this???
They didn’t cut wrong information. They are putting doubt and lies in the air...
RE: You’re sighting Snopes as a resource on this???
I’m citing Snopes as BACKING UP the claims of the writer of this article.
Snopes is a leftist entity.
RE: They didn’t cut wrong information.
So, you’re saying that the original claim that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were sent out and 2.5 million mail-in votes were received is RIGHT information and the claims made in this article is wrong?
Can you explain why?
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