Posted on 11/09/2020 1:44:12 PM PST by American in Israel
For those interested in how you can tell what w hat printers print which ballot, here is a link:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=printer+yellow+dot+8d&t=fpas&ia=about
Note this is old technology. This is required by Homeland Security on all printers. Nowadays on newer than 2004 the serial number may be imprinted in a different manner that is confidential.
The short story is that every printer embeds its serial number on every sheet it prints so if extra ballots were printed on a different printer than the original you not only could tell it was a duplicate. You could prove what type printer and which one.
There actually is a “secret watermark” on every American printer.
(Excerpt) Read more at duckduckgo.com ...
At the end of the day, all theoretical voters have had their names check marked, but no one knows who got which numbered ballot, unless they separately recorded the name and ballot number of each voter. Then, after the ballots were cast, they would have to be pulled and matched with the unauthorized list.
The votes are tallied and the total shows that a thousand ballot were cast. It doesn't necessarily show who Mrs. Smith voted for, or for that matter who anyone else voted for. And, in each election, there are undervotes. So while a thousand ballots were submitted, there are going to be blank votes for some candidates or propositions.
A poll watcher in Michigan said he saw a poll worker have a ballot come in, and assign it as having voted to someone in the data base who had not voted.
If you know who will not vote (dead, moved away, etc) you could assign votes to those people.
Exactly.
I think that any given printer who is contracted to produce official documents would automatically put watermarks and/or other encoded information to deter others from trying to counterfeit the documents.
If you know who will not vote (dead, moved away, etc) you could assign votes to those people.
Yes, you absolutely could. But you can't do it 138,000 times.
That level of fraud requires a higher level access than the lowly poll worker. And it's that level of fraud that is behind the whole "vote by mail" plan. All of those ballots could be assigned to people who are still on the rolls but haven't voted in many election cycles. After the polls close, run your fraud list name against the in-person voting, and you can figure out how many ballots you can run through the system.
You cannot keep from putting on the hidden id, it is a Homeland Security requirement for all Printer manufacturers and is part of the firmware.
Which I personally am fine with as long as it does not screw up my prints.
Correct. But any ballot printed on it would be keyed to that specific printer. Kinda like a ballot counterfit.
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No, it does not tie you a specific ballot as every ballot printed on a specific printer has an identical ID. But if ballots with a serial number not matching the main batch of ballots had a different ID, then you not only could spot those as not from an official source you could tie those ballots to a specific source and know exactly what kind of printer you were looking for.
I am hoping Trump does not quit the investigation at winning but carries this through far e ough to put Pelosi in jail for life.
Chinese ballots do not have ids.
Give it a break bucko, I just wanted to clear up the watermark issue, China is your issue, I have no idea where in heck you are coming from. And... don’t care.
Don’t give a rip about your argument it has no bearing to my post which was to shed a little light on the secret isotope rumor.
But for your information that ballot printer would have the ID mark. If you actually used it to manufacture ballots, the question would be raised as to how 130,000 mail in ballots were printed in the local hq, and not sourced from the offset where they won have been actually mailed from.
BUSTED...
So that would be a good example of how such an id would be used in your example.
I don’t know, you would know a lot more about that than me.
I used to work at a telephone company as a "Systems Specialist" (equivalent to a senior Systems Analyst) where part of my job involved modifying the font on a high speed laser printer which printed out thousands of bills every day.
The paper used came in extremely large rolls which were fed into the printer intact.
The printer I worked on was much larger than the one showed at the following link and it also included separating each bill and inserting it into envelopes which it also printed.
https://www.biline.ca/4100.htm The paper used came in extremely large rolls which were fed into the printer intact.
I have both items I bought to present proof of fraud in a court case.
see my reply in post 53. Also, false ballots would probably be printed in multiple locations due to time constraints.
As pictured, they have small printers to print small runs, but I view this as part of a larger effort and have a hard time believing that this administration could keep anything secret, especially something about an election sting.
It’s just not about the ballots, imho.
I realize this is all going down the rabbit hole and I firmly believe that everything about this election - from ballot dumps, to mysterious drop offs by people driving stolen out-of-state vehicles, to sworn statements of fraud, to witness statements of restricting observers, etc etc, including all the misinformation - is all with intent: Death by 1000 cuts.
Or, rather, obfuscate the real crime, which is software manipulation.
Printing, marking, sealing & delivering ballots is logistically intensive and troublesome. Changing ballot counts as loyal workers destroy opposition ballots is easy and can be accomplished with little organization (”conspiracy” comes to mind)
If there’s any validity to ballot audits on the basis of some ‘sting’ - watermark, machine identification code, barcode or otherwise - the real crisis is what happens after the fact. And the real tragedy is both that no one will be prosecuted and neither will the software be investigated and/or pulled from voting systems.
It’s rather ironic that many states have abandoned electronic voting systems as being too vulnerable and troublesome, adopting the old paper ballot, but that in the process they bundled tabulating software which is even better than the voting machines themselves in terms of ability to manipulate the results of an election.
See my tagline.
I’ve stated it elsewhere over & over: We need either a federal statute or Constitutional amendment to deal with national elections in the technology era, along with penalties which are as ironclad as those for drug trafficking.
I’m just biding my time, trying to sift through all the fog (MOST of it IS ‘fog’) and waiting to see what will come with at least one or two state legislatures exercising Article II for the electors.
And prepared to dispatch with extreme prejudice those who riot in the wake of a possible defeat of Democrat election fraud (American Coup #2).
You and I are on the same page. The paper ballots are the preponderance of evidence for audits, the real meat on the bone is where the heck did Biden get 70 million of his votes?!
It ain’t fake ballots. Its digital. And who owns the software?
Nancy Pelosi and Diane Fienstien.
And dementia addled Pelosi bragged about it.
Now, what politican have you seen in the last decade with the body parts to confront corruption?.. None!
But then Trump is not a politician. He is a patroit with a history of punching back.
Now, as to his administration you are correct, it’s leak central. But who is loyal and knows how to keep their mouth shut?
A select few in the military. So to set up a sting that is who you need. So the cyber security wing of Homeland Security is set up. They are tasked with protecting the critical infrastructure. That is defined to include the voting infrastructure. This places it under military jurisdiction and unlike the CIA you can use military assets to monitor internal critical infrastructure assigned to your jurisdiction.
This was done year two of Trump. It was controlled and operated outside of his administration. The guy plays chess’ the Demoncrats play checkers.
“The guy plays chess’ the Demoncrats play checkers”
Same page, indeed. I’ve said those same words.
I can only hope that the entire time he was under assault under Russiagate he was tasking others to fight the real fight and, rather than do anything to tip his hand by going after Dominion & others, he just gave them more rope.
It would be the most brilliant counter-intelligence coup governing corruption in US history.
But then I remember ‘deep state’, ‘Scorecard’ and the corruption at FBI/DOJ...
If Biden’s leads are erased due to exposure of fraud, the Civil Rights strife of the 60s will look like a girl scout jamboree (ironically all white this time)...
...and I’m locked/loaded. Bring it, I say. They want “lists”?
If the SHTF, I recommend our own lists and cowboy justice, swift & with EP.
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