The Mystery of Taiwan: Taiwan rejected Covid-19 lockdown in favor of maintaining social and economic functioning, yet, has seen only has seen 573 cases and only 7 deaths!

American Institute of Economic Research ^ | 11/07/2020 | Amelia Janaskie

[untenured]

Why do the East Asian nations (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.) where masking is taken seriously have much lower infection and death rates than Western countries?

Again, check out Worldometer if you doubt this.

[politicianslie]

Isn’t the use of HCQ fairly prevalent in Taiwan (or, at least, it is readily accessible)?

This figure which I believe I got from Dr Gold of the FRONTLINE Dr's shows China is a country that is mixed HCQ use, not blocked like the RED countries. Some countries do better with HCQ use than others, why that is the case is easily answered from the following info:

The GREEN line countries have much lower death rates than countries that do not encourage HCQ use. But HCQ by itself relies on zinc to be of high enough concentration from you diet which may not always be sufficient. Zinc is the "bullet" that prevents the virus from replicating, HCQ is the "vehicle" that delivers the Zinc to the cell.

I had symptoms in July, on the 3rd day, I lost smell and taste which are from what I read the symptoms which confirm you have COVID-19. I found a knowledgeable FRONTLINE Dr and was prescribed the Zelenko Protocol. The person who infected me and myself were treated by one of the doctors in this table. If you spend just a few seconds looking, you'll see that ALL of the FRONTLINE Dr's who use the type treatment listed on this spreadsheet have nearly a 100% success rate!

French Dr Raoult is the only one listed who used protocol #1 which is ONLY HCQ and antibiotic (but he didn't add zinc) and he had the worst death rate. His results are much better that the usual medical results but not as good as any of the doctors who used Protocol #2 or #3.

This YOUTUBE is Dr Tyson who is in S California. The YOUTUBE numbers have been updated on this spreadsheet-<1900 COVID INFECTED TREATED, ONE HOSPITALIZED

DOZENS of Licensed Doctors tell the public that they treat COVID postive tested patients with HCQ+Zn+antibiotic and they have a near 100% success rate. Almost 100% recover, and virtually no one is even hospitalized! Why does any intelligent person trust Fauci and his co-conspirators when they say that HCQ is dangerous, HCQ is not proven to work etc etc...?

YOUTUBE Calif Dr Treats COVID patients and has nearly a 100% success rate

I didn't use Dr Tyson but I do follow him on twitter. Do you believe Fauci when he questions the effectiveness of HCQ+Zn or do you believe Dr Tyson who has treated 1900 patients? The issue really is this simple:

WHO IS WRONG?

1. Dr Tyson who has treated 1900 patients and only ONE needed to be hospitalized

2. Dr Fauci who has NEVER treated anyone with HCQ+Zn for COVID-19? Keep in mind that Fauci doesn't say HCQ is NOT effective, what Fauci says is that it has NOT been properly tested.

Since obviously choice #1 is the only one that makes sense, WHY is Fauci willing to kill people while we wait for testing to be completed?

It is obvious why Fauci prevented HCQ+Zn+antibiotic from being used to save over 200,000 American lives, isn't it? All you have to do is look at today's news.

HCQ +zn+antibiotic can be prescribed by an online Dr and a mail order prescription can be delivered to your door. If you don't have any in case you become infected, you might want to consider using DUCKDUCKGO and find a Dr who will do that. If you are overweight, over 60, heart condx, diabetes, prediabetes... you might want to make that a high priority. You have 5 days of symptoms to treat w/HCQ before you get the virus explosion.

[logi_cal869]

Very insightful.

In my book I collectively label it Lifestyle Disease, but it’s just a bit more complicated than a label and short explanation. It is very, very interesting how Asian industrialized nations are hardly affected, in spite of inconsistent ‘mitigation measures’. I believe that there are a number of factors, race among them (including bioengineering).

[Long Jon No Silver]

You’ll be following Taiwan affairs even more closely if the imbecile that is measuring the drapes for the WH is installed

[logi_cal869]

Have another drink.

[untenured]

Agreed, alas.

[untenured]

LOL, a very compelling argument.

[gbs]

Oh yeah, the magical mask😂

[Long Jon No Silver]

Another area seems to be Africa. If anywhere was going to be hammered hard you think it would be there. I don’t think it has been, but I confess I could be wrong. Not too many obese Africans, except for the odd dictator or two

[fr_freak]

I have lived in Taiwan several times. The answer is, an utter lack of crackpot views about masks (which Taiwanese people have worn for years without blubbering about difficulty breathing or whatnot), the willingness to behave non-selfishly and instead to do what is best for the country as a whole and, as a small island nation, the ease of eliminating dangerous entry from overseas.

Bullsh!t. If they had 573 cases and 7 deaths, that means the virus was in their country. Given what we know of corona viruses, there is no logical, reasonable way in hell that this virus wouldn't have spread much farther than that even with freaking hazmat suits. The only explanation, if we assume the data is correct, is that only 573 cases and 7 deaths came to their attention, which is another way of saying that they didn't deliberately inflate numbers and generate hysteria. Instead, they waited until some SOB got the sniffles and came in to get it checked, then dealt with it honestly, instead of listing his heart condition as a f***ing COVID case.

[SecAmndmt]

“Why do the East Asian nations (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.) where masking is taken seriously have much lower infection and death rates than Western countries?”

Because they are Buddhists?

Correlation is not causation.

Mask wearing has ZERO effect on cv19 infection rates.

On the other hand, being obese and having other co-morbidities makes up about 95% of (alleged) cv19 deaths. Only 6% of cv19 deaths are “covid only”.

On the other hand, face masks worn willingly constitute virtue signaling, being a Democrat, or being a moron (I repeat myself?)

There has been lots written about the ineffectiveness of face diapers.

[El Cid]

Re: 50

I could believe that scenario also. Without a doubt, COVID, has been counted differently (inflating the numbers) in the US (and West) than any previous flu bug.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

The people of Taiwan/ROC are very nice, smart and organized. I saw this first hand when I lived in Taipei in 1971 while I went to Chengchi University (a future President of that country was my classmate. Smart guy and nice as well all of my Chinese classmates and teachers).

This is why Peking/Communists fear a free ROC. It is an example of how freedom allows a people to grow and prosper.

This is what the Reds fear most. No wonder they buddy-up to the Bidens. Better to have greedy fools on your payroll than to let them wander around on their own. They might get a sane thought about things such as free speech, freedom, Tianamen Square was a bad thing, concentration camps aren’t nice, and playing around with deadly viruses could hurt us.

[oldasrocks]

Per your question: Taiwan is currently testing everyone who flies in. Mandatory 2 week quarantine for everyone coming in.

My wife is there now. She has been there since February when she went over to visit her sick father. Her return tickets was cancelled by AA. There is no safe way to fly home currently.

People in Taiwan exhibit personal responsibility. They have a habit of wearing masks because of the pollution coming across in the winds from china. Since my wife is from there I have spent a lot of time in Taiwan. It is amazing to see a culture where people actually care for one another.

Not only mask wearing is practiced. If you enter a larger store you walk through a mist of disinfectant and are given hand sanitizer. They have crews that randomly take peoples temp on the streets. Robots do this in larger cities.Social distancing is not possible due to population density.

People have stated this is because it is a communist country. Far from the truth. Very little crime in Taiwan because the government does their job and the penalties are severe.

[oldasrocks]

One more statement. If you were found to have Covid they were fitted with an ankle bracelet and quarantined. Tough law but it worked. $40,000 US fine if you broke quarantine.

No taking a daughter to a High School dance when infected like here.

[HamiltonJay]

My brother is currently there.

They have handled it sanely.

You enter the country, you are locked down for 2 weeks before you are allowed to go to do anything. Temperature checks and recorded daily..

They aren’t locking down everyone, but they are serious about it.

I assume any positive case of a citizen will be put into forces quarantine as well.

[logi_cal869]

When you succumb from complications of a new viral or bacterial infection one day in the near future due to your irrational mask wearing & hypochondriac hygiene, don’t come crying to me. Because I’ll be dancing on your grave metaphorically singing ITYS DUMBASS.

[logi_cal869]

I’ve written about that very point elsewhere. But publicly scientists seem disinterested in the facts behind the dichotomy of western industrialized nations vs. 3rd-world.

It could very well be a facet of its ‘lab engineered’ origins - both for the dichotomy and for the seeming resistance to learn “Why?” - but my curiosity on this topic seems rather rare. Absent working in a laboratory, details to investigate those questions are quite sparse.

[IrishBrigade]

‘Why do the East Asian nations (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.) where masking is taken seriously have much lower infection and death rates than Western countries?’

and why do African cesspools like Sierra Leone have a fraction of the East Asian nations...? you know, those countries where shit runs in the rivers, creeks, and streets, hygiene consists of saliva on festering sores, animals cohabit with humans in corrugated tin sheds, and the value of life is measured in days, not years...?

claiming that forced masking is the answer to viral woes is facile at best...