Posted on 09/01/2020 1:43:24 PM PDT by Heartlander
Dinesh has serious issues
Course few talk radio addicts here know that
Dinesh has serious issues
Course few talk radio addicts here know that
So you’re saying one must be religious to be Jewish
Then 90% of Jews are not Jews
Most Jews I know which is a helluva lot sure consider themselves Jewish even if their butt rarely hits the temple and their membership is always in arrears
But let their kid get married ....especially the girl and suddenly they are more Jewish than Ben Shapiro with a belly full of Purim kreplach
You’re not the only freepers who tries to excuse away Jewish Marxists or Mensheviks or Bolshies or Trotskyites
By this slippery evasive definition then Ustashi weren’t really Catholic ....after all they were too murderous and psychotic to be good Catholics right
Or close to home for me....given where most southern edition of the latter Klan sprang from I’d reckon most were Baptist or Methodist or maybe Assembly of God but shucks since they were such nasty critters they couldn’t possibly be considered such....well....fraid not
Every group has it warts and many Jews for reasons we’ve debated here ad nauseum simply cannot resist the siren call of messianic humanism and it incarnation of collectivism and the ever more up to date wokness and culture Marxism
It’s just how it is despite how uncomfortable calling them out over it makes some feel
You’d have to be willfully blind not to notice there are a lot of Rob Reiners around
Feel free to generalize about my group....hey..you already do....lol
I like Jews....even some of the libtard ones....I’ve lost Jewish girls over this topic
“Wardaddy I’m opposing the republican president because I have to keep the Christian Right from any more power”
So i ask my comely buxom raven haired w soon to be ex Jewish girlfriend “what has the Christian Right done to you honey...be precise”
U can imagine how it goes from there....I end up being looked at like that forbidden indulgence I really was all along....it’s that uncomfortable realization we’re in a polite physical relationship ....
I don’t hold a grudge
We all are what we are from those before us and Im ok with that ..
No, I said nothing of the sort. But that would make Karl Marx Jewish rather than atheist, and thus by extension make one a promoter of the national socialist conspiracy theory that communism is a “Jewish plot”.
Marx in his diatribe first claimed “the secular basis of Judaism” was “practical need; self-interest”, then the next thing he said that “the worldly religion of the Jew” was “huckstering” and that “his worldly god” was “money”. So he was attacking Jews whether ethnic or religious, based on the identity alone.
Nobody excuses Marxists whose ethnic background is that of the tribe of Judah. They are throwing away their heritage on the false altar of godless so-called internationalism, just as any other human being that embraces this ideology does (and that includes millions if not billions of nominal Christians).
Interesting and very short thread in light of the subject. Reminds me of days of yore on FR. Nice wrap-up and not a single comment from the originator after posting the thread.
Comments aren’t exactly demanded of the originator and the thread played out rather nicely.
I have dealt with thousands of small business clients for 35 years. 90% of small business owners are conservative or at least lean right or middle of the road at the most left of the spectrum.
Every one of my clients who are Jewish business owners except for one is liberal. Nearly all far left.
I am not exaggerating here.
I know
Except, as previously established in quotes from their writings and speeches, Marx and Engels specified how the Revolution was to be lead by an organic revolt of the masses lead by the masses. They explicitly rejected the Bolshevik concept decades before it even came into existence. Your interpretation is only further validating my point that Marx is simply ignored by the left and everyone else. The left has resorted for a hundred years of, "Well, Marx didn't mean this." "If Marx had known better, he would have said this. "Marx didn't explicitly say otherwise." The modern left is inherently Post-Marxist.
"It’s a folly to characterize the Russian Empire as non-industrialized"
I agree, this is Marx and Lenin's characterization, not my own. Once again, Marx was wrong.
I am not going to let Marx off the hook, he was one of the biggest hypocrites who probably ever lived. For all of his smug self-satisfaction of his own intellect and theories, he did not even come remotely close to living in a manner that wasn't self-serving. As to Marx's opinions on Jews, it is probably to you a distinction without a difference, but Marx's atttitude was not a biologically based ethnic hatred, which is the general definition of Anti-Semitism.
Marx’s belief in the abolition of private property, family, religion and borders was absolute. When understood in the context of the ends justifying the means, then there is no “revisionism” and everything Antifa does, never mind the Bolsheviks, Maoists, Khmer Rouge, Viet Cong, any of them, can be predicted in light of that ideology.
Except your generalization is incorrect. These groups are obsessed with the concept of "praxis" and have always considered the label "Revisionist" as a slur. Once again, this shows signs of Post-Marxism, not actual Marxism, or even Marxist-Leninism. These groups will violently attack each other because of other ideological or praxeological disagreements they have. The modern left actually does not get along with Communists of any type because of various reasons. Antifa figures have sworn, "Tankies get the bullet" for being "homophobic" and "class reductionist". Any actual Marxist would consider the concept of being "class reductionist" absurd. This term comes from Post-Structualist and Critical Theory, which is Post-Marxist.
The phrase “organize themselves as a class” with respect to the “proletariat” is purely militaristic, particularly with respect to calling for a revolution to “make themselves the ruling class”, which is a coup d’état. There is no such thing as an “organic” alternative, whatever that is; please don’t attempt to insert neologisms.
If the left is somehow “post-Marxist”, it can only be due to Marxism per se being an anachronism.
Again, as previously shown, Marx and Engels had made clear that they rejected the idea of a secret organization that would launch a coup d'état against the State as the Vanguard. You're saying that this has to be, that Lenin was somehow not in defiance to Marx as this is the only logical sense for a Revolution to occur. The answer would be correct if Marx was concerned with thinking logically at a tactical level. Marx however, wasn't. He believed that Capitalism would inevitably be destroyed as it was simply the course of history. This magical thinking is exactly why Marx has been compared to Christian chiliasts who spoke of the immanence of the Second Coming. Marx was a true believer and in other circumstances could have easily been a cult leader or a religious fanatic.
If the left is somehow “post-Marxist”, it can only be due to Marxism per se being an anachronism
It is an anachronism. They have moved beyond Marx and Communism decades ago. Their thinking has evolved and their rhetoric and conceptualization has changed wildly.
D'Souza first tried making a name for himself back in the 1990s by accusing established conservative writers of racism, a trick also tried by David Frum, another opportunistic sleazeball who once ingratiated himself with GOP hacks.
Paleocons were Dinesh's first targets so they knew early on what he's all about. But one of the best takedowns of the self-promoting faker was done by the arguably neocon Victor Davis Hanson, which includes gems like:
True, it is the singular achievement of D’Souza that his bizarre writ has for a moment earned universal condemnation from those who can agree on little else. But that rare consensus represents not a “closing of the conservative mind” so much as it reflects the moral vileness of much of what D’Souza writes. And pathetically, the more frequently conservative magazines, media, and institutions offer D’Souza a megaphone, the more apt he is to play the wounded fawn.
The rest of Hanson's essay is found here:
“What a coincidence Margaret Sanger was a racist and an anti-Semite too. She is revered by the left.”
She was also a Republican and a pal of Mrs Barry Goldwater. Together they founded Arizona’s first birth control clinics.
Today’s Left and Right both refuse to touch that hot potato.
Hmm. I never said “secret organization”. And Lenin, frankly, was out in the open, as were the Irish communist rebels during the 1916 Rising.
Both Trump and. Reagan were Democrats, so I’m not particularly impresssedwith your point
Had
“Both Trump and. Reagan were Democrats, so I’m not particularly impresssedwith your point”
Which doesn’t apply to D’Souza at all. So what is your point?
Bull
He drinks from the well I spoke of
All of these people do
Hand wringing over racism and slavery as original sins will be forgotten weaknesses when the war starts
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