**I have to disagree here, Vlad. For anyone just speaking in a normal way, it is very easy for Jill to sound like Joe, and Joe to sound like Jill. I think theres enough pickins to go after Joe for, but I dont think for a minute he said Joe rather than Jill. **
How about this from the convention. It seems pretty to clear to me what Joe is saying ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9GRy3auD6U&feature=youtu.be
Sorry. If you want to hear Joe, you’ll hear Joe. If you are wondering if it could actually be Jill, and you try and see if you can hear Jill, you’ll hear Jill. He’s got enough dementia to call to attention....this is rather weak.
His lips form an “o” from what I see.