Posted on 08/25/2020 10:38:30 AM PDT by buckalfa
Nursing, and Medical students in surgical rotations are special cases, considerable education and preparation has occurred before entering surgical suites, also, you have to start somewhere, and skin opening is the easiest part of surgery. Even a surgical supply rep. has been around the block many times.
But an untrained civilian, is just stupid
Because he is considered a medical technician. He is in there because if the equipment he manages. IF he goes beyond scope of his authorization law suits will have him too
I’m a mechanic, people ask me to participate in surgery all the time, NOT.
I have drill a hammer and a punch though, so I’m set when they finally do ask me.
Interns and residents have teaching licenses. They practice under supervision, but have their own ticket.
No it doesn’t happen all the time
You are qualified to be an orthopedic surgeon!
...Not before they have an md.
I did, but that was 40 years ago. Much preceding training occurred, and it was heavily... mentored
My brother-in-law is a surgical assistant. Basically he is in charge of the instruments used by the surgeon making certain that the right equipment is available and often hands it to the surgeon. But as far as I know he does not cut.
It’s not easy work. He works a 12 hour shift 4 days a week. This is leading quickly to retirement. :-)
Medical students routinely participate and are scrubbed in to surgery in academic institutions, I learned to sew by closing the open saphenous vein harvests in bypass surgery. It took me as long to sew the leg from heel to thigh as it did for the surgeon to actually to the actual surgery
Point being — in the operating room significant technical procedures are taught to medical students, and under the academic institution and it is perfectly legal. A patient can refuse to have a student, but it is accepted and required practice for the training of physicians.
So your BIL is a scub tech. An integral part of the surgical team, and a licensed position.
Watch one...do one...teach one.
Is that completely true? Some years back I read that orthopedic companies had some of their salesmen suit up to critique in-theater use of their new power-toys. Am I mistaken, was that a one-off aberration, or did the powers that be put a stop to that?
No there is not anything more. He did not hold privileges to commit surgery. Eventhough it is truly the simplest part of the surgery, a skin cut doesnt get near anything important, it literally just opens the skin, it demonstrates extremely POOR judgment. He should have stated this is not appropriate and said no. I question the judgment of the surgeon. That God someone called the ethics line and made the report. He did practice without a license. No-no.
The only drawbacks...1) everything took at least twice as long as a real dentist would have taken and...2) there were a couple of occasions when the student told me that that was the first time he/she had done what was about to be done to me.On one occasion I could feel the student's hands shaking inside my mouth! Good thing an instructor was looking over his shoulder at the time! ;-)
There are free clinics associated with almost every major medical school where students practice under vey close supervision. It is a great answer to indigent care and usually the medicine is first rate because there is an experienced attending literally standing over the should of the medical clerk.
I assume my BIL is licensed as he had substantial training for the position. He retired from the police force after 20 years and worked security at the hospital for awhile, which was boring beyond belief. Someone advised him he could earn more as a surgical assistant with training. After the police work, the sight of blood didn’t bother him so he pursued that career.
Surgery, most people are surprised to find out, is not all that bloody. Usual blood loss is less than a nasty skinned knee. Dont get me wrong, there are some blood baths, but in general it is pretty dry.
— No one is allowed to be in the surgical theater
without a medical license —
In my younger years, as part of my job, on multiple occasions I attended major surgery sessions. I didn’t do anything but babysit some important equipment. At the time, the only license I had was a driver’s license.
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