Posted on 08/21/2020 4:33:57 PM PDT by SteveH
With all the knowledge and experience I have in the work world over the years each year in each situation is in a way unique almost like life is a crapshoot just when you think you figured it all out ha
so glad i’m retired
Just move one, any employer should have the right to fire whomever whenever
Move on
“When I fire employees I just have them killed. It saves a lot of problems.”
ha. i told my firing boss (ex army) that i would walk across the street upon seeing him, and that i would always be unarmed should he decide to shoot first. i think it was worth about half a chuckle with him at the time. now i realize that it was a restriction i was placing on him and not just a restriction i was placing on myself. no worries, he eventually ended up working in kansas (or nearby state). not that there is anything wrong with kansas (or nearby). lol.
i probably have no experience or skills appropriate for just about any job in kansas... perhaps I was a SV bound creature before i even graduated college :-/
“Oh wait.. it’s called going postal”
are they hiring these days? lol
If the new company calls the old and says they fired him, he can sue.
Most corporations only give dates of employment and say nothing good or bad.”””
IF drugs/alcohol or embezzlement is involved, the company CAN state that. Criminal activity can be exposed.
However, most companies that are checking references know this key phrase:
“Is the employer eligible for rehire?”
The old company can clearly state NO.
Are you sure you are getting ALL the Details of the firing???
yes although i sometimes wonder if it applies to SV and H1B (never got a chance to think it out lol).
“Don’t forget sitting on your ass while kissing ass... It could also be about that, if you’re in good with the “boss”.”
i’m not going to claim that my friend is not attractive...
i think there was another recent thread about the prevalence of bosses getting it on with employees under their charge. i am generally the among the last to know about such arrangements and otherwise clueless about how to get into such. maybe the 80-20 rule applies and i was never in the lucky 20 nor did i even think about getting into the lucky 20.
...anyways, it did not sound from the very brief description that i got that that had anything to do with the situation at hand. from what little i heard, it was more just straight up differences of opinion.
Is that a reference to a matthew mcconnaughly film situated in arkansas or thereabouts on the mississippi river border?
anyways i also found an interesting urbandictionary reference:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mud%20cat
so glad i’m retired
i know exactly how you feel, me too
but ugh i hate hate hate being old
“Is the employer eligible for rehire?”
whoa!
thanks for pointing that out!!
my humble thanks to the FR hive for the very informative responses. i am not worthy, etc.
I watched them fabricate test results on government contracts, I’d have absolutely no reason to imagine they wouldn’t lie about little old me.
*gack*
it’s a small valley, let’s maybe *not* share notes, lol...
:-/
Semiconductor company, not in Silicon Valley.
It’s how it was explained to me here in CA. By HR professionals at both a big corporation and a friend who worked at an employment agency.
“Laid Off” means that your position was eliminated. “Fired” is if they get rid of you and get someone else to do substantially the same thing for any or no reason.
It’s academic because no place will say you were ‘fired’, of course, just dates of employment.
Several years later I get a call from somebody who says one of the guys gave me as a reference. I simply said, "He DID?". The voice on the phone said, "That's all I need to hear."
As for how fast someone can be fired, the answer is probably under an hour. I'm pretty sure a mid-level manager was caught misbehaving at work years ago. Nothing was ever said about him but he just simply disappeared from work. I think the process is that the supervisor takes the employee to a conference room and invites several levels of upper management. The situation is laid out to the employee. Someone is sent to retrieve any personal property on site. Human resources is contacted to arrange payment of any wages due. The employee is then escorted off the company property. In the case I'm thinking of the guy basically became a non-person.
Did he talk back or not follow directions?
Does he have another reason why he thinks he was fired?
Ha
Almost there..thank God..ha
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