[Svartalfiar]

Which explains this constant harping on the civil war. It was DEMOCRATS who foisted that war upon this nation and moreover, how can anyone claim to be a conservative and continue to argue over the southern causes for the civil war and its issues.

Completely incorrect. All the South had to do was leave; they had no reason to wage a war. The North required a war to force those States back into the union, ironically. And guess what? The North had a lot more Republicans at the time than Democrats. So it's a pretty sure thing Republicans foisted the war upon us. Course, there was no official declaration of war, But it mostly started with Lincoln (a Repub) calling up volunteers to go fight the South.

[crz]

The democrat party always has, and always will be, a den of traitors and thieves, liars and perverts.

To defend the very notion of the support of their lying thieving perversion should be repugnant to any liberty loving citizen of this nation.

We have now entered another period of American history where the evil again rears its ugly head. And that head has democrat stamped all over it.

[stremba]

The shooting war didn’t begin with the secession. It didn’t begin when Lincoln called up volunteers. It didn’t begin with any action by Lincoln or any Union commander. It began when the state of South Carolina demanded that Fort Sumter be surrendered, and when that fort was forcibly taken by the SC militia when it’s commander refused to surrender.

It’s likely that some other event would have precipitated the conflict had Sumter not been attacked, but let’s stick with actually history — the first shots of the war were fired by Confederate forces, not Union forces.

[Bull Snipe]

“But it mostly started with Lincoln (a Repub) calling up volunteers to go fight the South.”

After a Federal Fort, manned by soldiers of the Unites States Army was fired on by Confederate forces ordered to do so by Jefferson Davis ( a Dem).