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Is Kamala Harris a Natural Born Citizen?
Aug 11, 2020 | Self

Posted on 08/11/2020 7:30:27 PM PDT by captain_dave

Is Kamala Harris qualified to be Vice President? Is Kamala Harris a "Natural Born Citizen"?

While she was born in California in 1964, both her parents were, at that time, recent immigrants. Her mother immigrated in 1960 and her father in 1961 (according to the bio in Wikipedia). So, there is a serious question whether she is a natural born citizen.

The old accepted understanding of "natural born citizen" is a person born of two citizen parents, so at birth has no other loyalties, or claims of loyalty.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biden; election; harris; kamala; notthisagain
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1 posted on 08/11/2020 7:30:27 PM PDT by captain_dave
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Is that when they became citizens??


2 posted on 08/11/2020 7:33:38 PM PDT by taterjay
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Kamala Harris is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

And if the definition of Natural Born Citizen, as written by the Founders, obtains: then neither is Barack Hussein Obama.

And for that reason...the Swamp will defend Harris to the max.


3 posted on 08/11/2020 7:34:48 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: captain_dave

When they moved to Canada, did they obtain Canadian citizenship?


4 posted on 08/11/2020 7:35:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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Yes, she had citizenship at birth and it cannot be taken from her against her will.

https://reason.com/2020/08/10/yes-kamala-harris-is-indeed-a-natural-born-citizen/


5 posted on 08/11/2020 7:36:50 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: captain_dave

Both parents would have had to have been citizens at the moment of her birth.


6 posted on 08/11/2020 7:38:03 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: captain_dave

Anyone who cares about this issue will already be passionately opposed to her on a thousand others. The folks considering China Joe & MS Canada aren’t going to care in the least.

FWIW, there is good reason to believe NBC includes those legally born in the USA, regardless of parents.

But politically? You’re preaching to those who loathe Democrats from the bottom of their hearts already. No one who even knows that NBC might stand for Natural Born Citizen is even considering voting for her.


7 posted on 08/11/2020 7:39:10 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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She was born here.

Since the 1870’s that’s been good enough.

Was Dukakis Natural born? I didn’t hear this crap back then.

Obama was different deal—he came here as a foreign student. BIG difference.

No fan of Harris, but this is going to get real tiring over the next three months.


8 posted on 08/11/2020 7:39:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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I hate to have to tell you it doesn’t matter. Because it doesn’t anymore. Not since the Kenyan.


9 posted on 08/11/2020 7:40:23 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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> And if the definition of Natural Born Citizen, as written by the Founders... <

Where is that definition written? It’s not in the Constitution.

I’m not trying to be snarky here. Folks are always talking about who is and who isn’t natural born. But no one seems to have a link to anything fundamental. So any clarity here would be appreciated.


10 posted on 08/11/2020 7:40:56 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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No, no she is not a natural born citizen.


11 posted on 08/11/2020 7:42:45 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: captain_dave

No, she is NOT.....


12 posted on 08/11/2020 7:43:15 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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The old accepted understanding of "natural born citizen" is a person born of two citizen parents, so at birth has no other loyalties, or claims of loyalty.

Not quite correct.

The original meaning of Natural Born Citizen was that the Father be a citizen at the time of birth. Citizenship was carried through the loyalties and obligations of fidelity of the father. The US was a paternalistic society. The citizenship of the mother was considered irrelevant.

This why Obama could not be a Natural Born Citizen. His father was never a US Citizen and was a subject of the British Crown at the time of Obama’s birth.

13 posted on 08/11/2020 7:44:37 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirs)
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I am wondering if there will be a “Net Scrub”, like back during Obunghole (pre-)Era (2007-2008½); info ‘bleachbit from anything).


14 posted on 08/11/2020 7:47:29 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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Discussed at great length in this decision:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649


15 posted on 08/11/2020 7:48:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: captain_dave

Chairman Xi could already have a grandson he’s grooming for POTUS.


16 posted on 08/11/2020 7:48:49 PM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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Anchor babies are just as eligible to be president as real Americans


17 posted on 08/11/2020 7:50:00 PM PDT by atc23
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I hate to have to tell you it doesn’t matter. Because it doesn’t anymore.

Exactly. This might be something to talk about on conservative forums like this. It simply doesn't matter anywhere else, and it's a waste of energy to even discuss it - no one will be convinced not to vote for Biden/Harris because of it. Attack Harris on her wretched record as a prosecutor, on her complete lack of character and ethics, and on the horror of a Harris presidency, which is guaranteed if Biden is elected.
18 posted on 08/11/2020 7:50:34 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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“El Chapo” has twin daughters who either one could be POTUS.


19 posted on 08/11/2020 7:51:14 PM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The opening words tell us they must be a natural born citizen. Since no one at the time of our inception was a natural born citizen (ie their parents were British ect) they had to write exemptions for those there at the adoption of the constitution and 14 years a citizen. If natural born citizen equaled citizen then no exemption would have been needed.

It is clear as day. You must look at why they could not consider themselves natural born citizens. It is due to their parents not being American citizens at the time of their birth.

To be natural born is to have no possibility of another loyalty. Divided loyalties at birth is exactly what the founders meant to keep from being commander in chief of our armed forces.


20 posted on 08/11/2020 7:53:35 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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