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To: bigbob
Tucker Carlson viewers certianly heard from Alan Dershowitz tonight. I’ll reserve my comments after others weigh in.

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I believe Dersh, which implies Virginia Louise Giuffre is lying about him.

Of course I realize that Dershowitz, one of the most accomplished defense attorneys in the country, is extremely capable of lying convincingly.

But we have to be careful about believing people without any evidence, and especially when there is exonerating evidence. After all, half the country still believes Dr. Fraud and her lies about Kavanaugh, not to mention the other kooks that joined that particular parade of clowns.

540 posted on 07/31/2020 6:42:37 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian ("the right of the people peaceably to assemble")
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To: Disestablishmentarian

I found him to be credible too, not only because he was adamant about his innocence and anxious to tell his side, but the explanations were logical and clearly verifiable, so he’d be a moron to say things that will be easily disproven.

For example, he said his only visit to Pedo Island was shortly after Epstein bought it and before it was developed as it is today, and that his wife and daughter were with him. No young girls, just a housekeeper. Same with staying at Epsteins NY home, which was when he attended a grand daughters sports tournament. Again, verifiable, which is why he says he has the proof that she’s lying about him. That’s not to say she’s not telling the truth about others but that remains to be seen.

Since he is, as you say, a very skilled orator and intimately familiar with the law, for me it put him back in the neutral category, rather than being convinced of his guilt as I’d become from her statements. When someone is as adamant as he is about investigating everything and finding the truth, either they have truth on their side or they are supremely confident in their lies. Since he’s not in control of all the evidence that potentially exists (such as video and photos), it seems most likely to me that he’s being truthful.


558 posted on 07/31/2020 7:28:45 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

I admit to being confused about what to believe regarding Dershowitz and Giuffre. Whether you believe Dershowitz is lying or Giuffre is lying, it raises conundrums. I’m less likely to believe Dershowitz’s story after watching this Newsmax interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIweVUw-lz0

Not only is he claiming his own innocence, but he also seems to be implying that others like Clinton, Wexner, Prince Andrew, Ehud Barak are also innocent. If he was just professing his own innocence I would be more inclined to believe him. But, based on this interview, he seems to be suggesting that all her claims are phony and that they were made in order to sell her book.


583 posted on 07/31/2020 9:36:32 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Disestablishmentarian; bigbob

“Tucker Carlson viewers certianly heard from Alan Dershowitz tonight. I’ll reserve my comments after others weigh in.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe Dersh, which implies Virginia Louise Giuffre is lying about him.

Of course I realize that Dershowitz, one of the most accomplished defense attorneys in the country, is extremely capable of lying convincingly.

But we have to be careful about believing people without any evidence, and especially when there is exonerating evidence. After all, half the country still believes Dr. Fraud and her lies about Kavanaugh, not to mention the other kooks that joined that particular parade of clowns.”

I was also swayed “A bit” by Dersh. However it occurred to me the saying “Deny, Deny, Deny”. That is what Dersh did. He said he didn’t know Epstein that well but Tucker countered with anyone that would stay in my three houses I would know pretty well (if Tucker had three houses). Tucker asked about his defense and the agreement which appeared to exclude Dersh from liability (or something) and Dersh said animatedly “I didn’t write that. It wasn’t for me!”. Further, he said he was being a good lawyer to get that deal and Epstein nearly fired him because he didn’t think the defense was strong enough. Tucker mentioned Clinton. Dersh went viral denying Clinton was ever on the island. Really? Dersh made some defense of the claim WJC was on Ghislaine’s heli with 2 young girls but again, deny, deny, deny is all he did.

I wish Tucker had asked about the art Epstein may have had in his house. After all, Dersh claimed his wife, daughter, and granddaughter (I think she stayed there but there was a soccer tourney and she could have been with the team). I wish Tucker had asked why Clinton was on the flight 26 times. Dersh claimed Guiffre has always been lying for money. My question is why doesn’t Dersh sue her for slander? He just kept saying journalists should fully investigate her and Dersh. Where would he get a more favorable outcome I wonder, in court or in the media?

Anyway, it was an interesting exchange. I know Tucker was constrained by time. I do wonder what he really thinks of Dersh.


631 posted on 08/01/2020 6:58:33 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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