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To: bagster; ransomnote; defconw
My Ukraine update. I told you there's a lot more. And this is important as Ukraine plays a central role that connects a LOT of the puzzle pieces.

Here's what's new:

(My words) In a really bad and fatal move (IMHO) by Poroshenko, he is claiming that the audio of the conversations between him and Kerry and Biden are "fabricated".

This is going to prove to be a fatal defense.

Because they came from Poroshenko's office and were recorded from the office. You can tell by listening that it was a recording device disguised as a flashdrive. (I can tell by the clicking sounds and the audio in general)

So Poroshenko is appealing to the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) to investigate the origin of the audiotapes. (simply buying time - the "I've been framed" excuse)

So basically, "The Office of the Prosecutor General (OPG) has instructed the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NACB and the State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) to investigate the criminal proceedings that were launched in connection with the audiotapes of conversations that took place between former United States vice president Joseph Biden and former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko on November 16, 2016, which Member of Parliament Andrii Derkach (independent) made public on Tuesday. Prosecutor General Iryna Venediktova announced this to the Ukrainian News Agency."

Link to read in English: "International corruption and treason" – Derkach unveiled conversations of voices similar to Poroshenko and Biden Тимофей Борзенко

Biden can't be liking this turn of events.

Dig in and listen to them while they are there. The whole kit and kaboodle. Watch the presentation of video 1 first - it is subtitled in English, and the proceeding is very enlightening in how the case is presented. It is a smoking gun. And what do you do with a smoking gun? If you are the defense you say it is not really a gun.

----->>>> NABU LEAKS <<<<---

Poroshenko's only argument is to say that Derkach fabricated it based on the fact that Derkach previously went to a school that was oversaw by KGB in Moscow. (who there hasn't??)

1,241 posted on 05/22/2020 3:26:37 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty - John Quincy Adams)
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To: Ymani Cricket; ransomnote; bagster; defconw
Re: my post #1241 with the whole NABU leaks, on the first video listen at: 21:11 to 21:40

Press conference "NEW FACTS OF INTERNATIONAL CORRUPTION AND EXTERNAL GOVERNANCE OF UKRAINE"

Here's transcript:

"We all remember well, how, instead of investigating Biden's crimes, NABU leaked Shokin and his family personal data to Biden's people at the embassy. But back to the recording of the conversation. It follows from the records that Petro Oleksiyovych wants the billion so bad he offer Biden to put an observer from the US Embassy to watch after Lutsenko and the Prosecutor General's Office.

But in order not to spit in the face of the electorate explicitly and not to show that the country's leading law enforcement agency, the Prosecutor General's Office is under the strict control of the Democrats and Soros forces from the US embassy, Petro Oleksiyovych says that this person should have Ukrainian roots or at least last name. By the way, the observer" did appear. His name is Vytvytski."

Now - who was calling US crazy Qs?? Take that red pill! People don't understand that it is taken as a matter of fact, not conspiracy, in other countries that Soros controls things.

1,261 posted on 05/22/2020 4:25:54 AM PDT by Ymani Cricket (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty - John Quincy Adams)
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