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To: Olog-hai

They are free to with their own company as they choose. The First Amendment applies only to the government.


25 posted on 05/06/2020 6:53:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I was looking at David Wood yesterday, and he outlined the difference between a platform and a publisher, albeit in the context of Youtube. FB is not a publisher FWICS; there is a difference, and the First Amendment absolutely does apply.


27 posted on 05/06/2020 9:17:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: GingisK
The First Amendment applies only to the government.
(dons flame retardant underwear)

Shocking but true, the First Amendment is overrated. Why?

Because the actual law of rights in America is Common Law. Recall that the Constitution as ratified in 1788 had no bill of rights. Why? Because the Constitution was not intended to affect any common law rights - and the nature of common law is that it wasn’t, isn’t, and never will be “enumerated” comprehensively in any one place.

Common Law is a bunch of court precedents, and court precedents grow organically.

Thus, the Federalists’ aversion to enumerating a bill of rights. But they had to agree to create one by amendment to the Constitution in order to get it ratified. The Ninth Amendment:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
basically reprises the Federalist argument that enumeration of all rights was a fool’s errand. What is most clear in the first and second amendments is true of the all eight enumerating rights - they weren’t there to break new ground, but to mollify apprehension about existing rights being modified. Those eight amendments “enumerate” the rights which tyrants had historically abused.

But those enumerated rights are clearly not designed to compromise any other right(s) by stealth, as the Antifederalists feared. Look at the Second Amendment. It speaks of “the” RKBA - but doesn’t define it. But “the” (existing) RKBA never included the right to commit assault with a gun. Let alone murder anyone.

Likewise the First Amendment speaks of “the” freedom of the press - but laws against pornography and libel limited freedom of the press at the time. Which is why Justice Brennan’s claim (in NY Times v. Sullivan that

". . . libel can claim no talismanic immunity from constitutional limitations. It must be measured by standards that satisfy the First Amendment”
is fatuous. The First Amendment did not touch libel or pornography law. You have to actually confront Common Law to really know what the Bill of Rights actually means in any specific case. Certainly WRT 1A and 2A.

30 posted on 05/06/2020 10:10:27 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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