[Bob Ireland]

***I'm not down with the "savages" remark -- they had the sophistication to create their art in places under the Earth that were (and still are) difficult to reach and difficult to illuminate without asphyxiating themselves***

Too right! And we hear about the Egyptians digging deep warrens in the Valley of the Kings with elaborate art and plaster work, but never hear about the fact that there is no suet from torches on the walls or ceilings - hundreds of feet underground.

[SunkenCiv]

:^)

[GOPJ]

Too right! And we hear about the Egyptians digging deep warrens in the Valley of the Kings with elaborate art and plaster work, but never hear about the fact that there is no suet from torches on the walls or ceilings - hundreds of feet underground.

Are you saying they not only had paint that lasted thousands of years (unlike paint today) but they also had light sources without smoke? Right? What are you REALLY saying?