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New Jersey desperately needs COBOL Programmers.
Josephsteinberg.com ^ | 4-5-2020 | Joseph Steinberg

Posted on 04/05/2020 9:49:43 AM PDT by fuzzylogic

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To: fuzzylogic

Nothin’ wrong with COBOL.

Good language. First of the structured code formats.

Did lots of it in the 70s. Even a bit of engineering code with it.

Beats the crap out of memory leak C/C+/C-whatever crap. Or all the other little spawns of hell interpreted “languages”.


41 posted on 04/05/2020 10:12:44 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: rightwingcrazy

It’s usually not the language, I agree somebody competent could pick it up...the real problem is understanding the whole system architecture and not breaking it.


42 posted on 04/05/2020 10:13:55 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Karma_Sherab

Me too. JDEdwards.. AS400


43 posted on 04/05/2020 10:16:37 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Regulator

Memory leaks are not the fault of the programming language.


44 posted on 04/05/2020 10:18:07 AM PDT by Bitman
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To: wally_bert
Would New Jersey style COBOL have the f word at random places all the way through?

LOL

PERFORM WHAT-THE-F-I-SAY
AS-MANY-TIMES-I-FN-WANT
UNTIL I-FN-WANT-YOU-TO-STOP
END PERFORM

45 posted on 04/05/2020 10:18:19 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: fuzzylogic
I still support COBOL systems for a major US corporation. Don't tell anyone because if they knew it would send shock waves through the country. We just had to make changes for the FFCRA act from Congress and the COBOL side of the house was done in a week prior the the April 1st statutory deadline.

In the meantime the JAVA guys still haven't completed their work. Of course they're smarter than us mainframe dinosaurs.

I work in NJ and guess I could quit and get a cushy government job but don't know if I could work long enough to get the great retirement package.

46 posted on 04/05/2020 10:18:56 AM PDT by OneRatToGo
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To: fuzzylogic

IBM “main frame” and mid-range computer systems, running CICS & batch Cobol programs against databases. Which started out as the states big systems. Then PC/Networked /client sever & Internet based apps were added with access to those databases. The PC/Networked client server apps and Internet apps generate “transactions” in qeue files that that are polled by batch programs that “officially” update the databases. Likely some state workers still see all of it in COBOL/CICS programs. Now, those databases, and the core programs that keep them updated need revisions for new fields, and functions for new inputs and outputs. Just my guess.

The state should have done as J&J did - turned to IBM business services to BE their computer systems department - equip it, staff it, develop its systems, keep updating it as needs change, choosing the means and methods for those changes, all in a single contract.


47 posted on 04/05/2020 10:21:05 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: fuzzylogic

I tested the RPG compiler at NCR (San Diego) as summer intern. First job as FORTRAN / COBOL programmer on IBM 1130 machine. Did COBOL at SF Fed Reserve for Y2k. Favorite language was SAS, though. Wrote a SAS program to take a COBOL source code and create a data definition report to hand to designers for documentation.


48 posted on 04/05/2020 10:21:21 AM PDT by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: fuzzylogic
I am willing to go to great lengths for our nation, but writing COBOL is asking a lot. Maybe too much.

A crisis like this shows over and over again how inept governments are. Didn't they ever think maintaining, or updating their Unemployment Insurance system was necessary?

I wonder if they are still using 3270s.

49 posted on 04/05/2020 10:21:49 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: fuzzylogic

Good grief. Is there anything New Jersey is up to date in?


50 posted on 04/05/2020 10:22:13 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: freeandfreezing

“I am willing to go to great lengths for our nation, but writing COBOL is asking a lot.”

lol....


51 posted on 04/05/2020 10:22:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Regulator

I suspect that someone who knows SQL could pick up the COBOL vibe pretty quick.


52 posted on 04/05/2020 10:22:46 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: fuzzylogic

They are also going to use this system to distribute the one time coronavirus payments. So more reprogramming and new system functions for that.

Trump wanted to use the IRS but Dems insisted the states do it.


53 posted on 04/05/2020 10:23:01 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (TAX the WOKE !)
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To: OneRatToGo

I did enterprise apps in the 90’s. For the last 20 years it’s been embedded systems, so COBOL isn’t something I’ve been around or even heard much about for a very long time.

Hopefully your system is well documented :)


54 posted on 04/05/2020 10:23:51 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim

Did you know REXX is available for Windoze PC?


55 posted on 04/05/2020 10:25:06 AM PDT by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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To: Cobra64; Karma_Sherab
Somebody had a good point - the 400 was virtually unhackable.

That's why we liked it.

56 posted on 04/05/2020 10:25:08 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: Reverend Wright

Hmmm...the D’s insisted? If the insistence was partisan I’d be really curious as to why.

D’s not wanting to move away from a system that handles money...maybe that is the best reason to do so!


57 posted on 04/05/2020 10:26:19 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic

Financial systems COBOL programmer on Burroughs/Unisys for over 20 years.

I retired 16 years ago but pretty sure I could walk back into it again.

Not going to NJ though, not for anything.


58 posted on 04/05/2020 10:26:36 AM PDT by katnip
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To: OneRatToGo
Make the phone call.

Bet you could cash in, and they'd be getting a seasoned pro.

59 posted on 04/05/2020 10:26:54 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Mitt Romney, Chuck Schumer's p*ssboy)
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To: fuzzylogic

New Jersey is a terrible place — and dangerous.

The only way I would ever go there is if they issued me a concealed carry permit before I every went close to the state. And an exemption from whatever roster of allowed weapons they have.


60 posted on 04/05/2020 10:28:13 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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