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To: Hostage

Perhaps I didn’t express myself well. I meant using EGCG as a zinc ionophore to transport zinc into the infected cells. The zinc then does the job and stops the virus from replicating. How much EGCG do you need for that?


77 posted on 04/04/2020 1:18:05 PM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

It’s been a long time since I was in the Czech Republic.

If you are there, I can’t understand why HCQ would be held pack from Czech doctors prescribing it.

To answer your question, try finding a dosage equivalent table between active ingredients for HCQ and for EGCG.

I haven’t checked but there might be concentrated EGCG forms, but are they safe?

But to be smart, I would discuss with a doctor or naturopath.


78 posted on 04/04/2020 2:09:23 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist

I would simply say to not go beyond the Upper Tolerable Limit on any supplement. Many supplements have this limit tested by which going beyond starts to cause people detriment.


105 posted on 04/06/2020 4:18:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Czech_Occidentalist
EGCG supplements have EGCG as a subset of its catechins. In the best supplements, that means 50%, but the actual amount should be on the label. One well reviewed (by ConsumerLab.com) EGCG is the NOW Foods version, which could allow two a day maximum and meet the following warning level:

“In 2018 the European Food Safety Authority concluded that green tea catechins doses at or above 800 mg per day may be associated with initial signs of liver injury, while catechins from green tea infusions (brewed tea) and similar drinks are generally safe.”

https://www.consumerlab.com/m/reviews/Green_Tea_Review_Matcha_Supplements_and_Bottled/Green_Tea/#concerns

This means you’d get over 400 mg (it tested to over 240 mg per capsule instead of the claimed 200 mg) of EGCG from nearly 800 mg of catechins in those two capsules. Do note EGCG interferes with multiple prescriptions and NOW says to take only one capsule a day.

For Quercetin, that same site says its “Top Pick” is “BulkSupplements.com Quercetin Dihydrate.” The next best for cost for the quality was “MRM” brand quercetin, followed by Solaray quercetin. I use a non-reviewed NOW quercetin.

The site further states this:

“Side-effects with quercetin have been uncommon in short-term (three months or less) clinical studies at doses between 500 mg and 1,000 mg per day. Reported side effects have generally been mild nausea, stomach upset and /or headache. Taking quercetin with food may reduce stomach upset (Andres, Mol Nutr Food Res 2018), as well as increase absorption if the foods include fats or oils.”

Be aware quercetin interferes with some of the same and yet other drugs you may take.

I hope this helps. The study referenced quercetin and EGCG as being capable of amounts that would be safe to use, but I haven’t drawn out what would be equivalents and remember, this study has nothing to do with viruses (2014).

106 posted on 04/06/2020 4:52:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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