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An anti-Trump person just told me that hospitals are now sending the oldest patients with coronovirus home from the hospital. I know this is bound to be fake (she does watch CNN). I've done research--does anyone have ANY idea what she might be referring to? It might be futile--but I want to set the record straight as much as I can to as many people as I can.
1 posted on 03/30/2020 9:18:24 AM PDT by Bogle
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To: Bogle

They’ve already been caught airing footage from inside an Italian hospital and claiming its from New York.


2 posted on 03/30/2020 9:19:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Bogle

I heard that was happening in Italy but we are nowhere near peak here.


3 posted on 03/30/2020 9:20:52 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: Bogle

Ask her for facts; what state, city or even hospital. They usually fold when asked to back up their talking points...


5 posted on 03/30/2020 9:21:07 AM PDT by Trinity5
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To: Bogle

Tell her Cuomo ordered it.


6 posted on 03/30/2020 9:22:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Bogle

Ask the person to prove it. It’s not your job to prove them wrong, it’s their job to to prove they are right.


7 posted on 03/30/2020 9:22:20 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Bogle

Your reply: STFU stupid.


8 posted on 03/30/2020 9:23:59 AM PDT by Stentor
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Local hospital in rural WA reports sending MOST victims home. Reporting is too childish to determine treatment. Notably residents of other counties come to the hospital in our county and get counted here, instead of their county of residence. A LOT of >65 patients sent home for treatment.


10 posted on 03/30/2020 9:27:36 AM PDT by RideForever (We were born to be tested)
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Fake news to inflame the public, lead to rage and fear

They used to just tell old folks that Republicans were going to cut social security

Now they will be telling old people Republicans ( Trump) wants them to die

SEDITION by mass media


11 posted on 03/30/2020 9:28:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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To: Bogle

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/


12 posted on 03/30/2020 9:29:21 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Bogle
Rumor has it's the Netherlands. Bloomberg News has a graphic displaying cases by state. It's interesting that the "blue" states have it the worst.

The infection rate in the U.S.outside of New York is still not that bad (in a clinical sense).

13 posted on 03/30/2020 9:33:19 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Bogle

Ask for a source. That’s probably all it’ll take to back’em down.


14 posted on 03/30/2020 9:33:34 AM PDT by moovova (It's not the Wuhu Flu...it's pollen season.)
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A hospital is not going to send anyone home in respiratory distress. They would be open to huge law suits. Mild or no symptoms, yes, but with instructions that if symptoms turn to the worse, they are to immediately return to the hospital.


16 posted on 03/30/2020 9:35:06 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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A lie is not a lie because it is necessarily untrue. It is a lie because of the implication—that what a person wants the hearer to believe of the lie.

I am a hospice patient and we ARE receiving patients at home on hospice who are covid-19 positive. However, these are people who are already terminally ill. People make the decision every day to not pursue aggressive treatment and to go home on hospice.

Pneumonia is a common reason people elect hospice who have life-limiting illnesses. The implication is that people are coming home with Covid-19 to save hospital resources for people who have a better chance. I do not believe the implication is true. People are being sent home because they are dying and hospice care at home is one of the most compassionate ways for a person to spend their last days.


17 posted on 03/30/2020 9:36:27 AM PDT by sonrise57 (God have mercy on us, protect our President and grace him with humility, wisdom and reciliance.)
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https://nypost.com/2020/03/29/elderly-queens-woman-dies-of-coronavirus-minutes-after-being-discharged-from-hospital/

https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-in-ny-citys-icu-bed-capacity-ranks-in-bottom-quarter-nationally/


18 posted on 03/30/2020 9:36:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Bogle

That is supposedly going on in Italy. Not here


20 posted on 03/30/2020 9:37:10 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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At the primary care clinic where I work we are telling people who call in with fever and respiratory symptoms to self-quarantine AT HOME unless they have breathing difficulties. Then they are advised to go to the local ER.


23 posted on 03/30/2020 9:48:54 AM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps coming.)
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This is not just Covid-19 cases. I am an independent contractor medical transcriptionist. I edit/transcribe dictations for two level-1 trauma center hospitals, one in Suffolk County, NY and one in Boston, MA. I can tell you doctors are having to cut corners on patient care the non-Covid cases.

As of last week they stopped doing elective surgeries and so now my work volume has been cut down three quarters of what it used to be. The hospitals are empty because they are waiting for this huge wave of Covid-19 patients. What is scary is that this compromises care for patients with other medical problems. Doctors are doing visits over the phone instead of having the patient come in for an exam. How many things will be missed and cause the patient more problems down the line?

The hospitals are now operating under restrictions. Surgeons have to have permission to perform surgeries. The hospitals are doing this because they have to preserve supplies such as gloves and masks for the medical personnel treating the infectious Covid-19 patients.

I transcribed a dictation for a patient last night that had an aneurysm. This patient was elderly and had multiple comorbidities. There were three surgeons, cardiothoracic and vascular on the case. They wanted to repair the problem in a staged approach which would require 2 trips to the OR. They were told they had to use the riskier approach and do it in 1 trip to the OR. The patient became coagulopathic during the procedure meaning he was bleeding and they couldn’t get his blood to clot. They had to give him massive amounts of clotting products and pack the chest without closing and go back in the next day to close the chest, so the patient wound up having to make 2 trips to the OR anyway.

I did a dictation today of an man in his 70s who had had a hip replacement and the implants were causing an infection. The surgeon went in today and cleaned out the infection and implanted antibiotic beads. The surgeon stated that the patient needed to have the implants taken out, but because of the Covid-19 situation, the patient would be discharged home and have to be scheduled for the procedure at a later time and to follow up with his orthopedist via televisit.


26 posted on 03/30/2020 10:04:36 AM PDT by Tareli (Vote Trump 2016!)
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To: Bogle

Just ask, “Is that true, or did you hear it on CNN?”


27 posted on 03/30/2020 10:09:44 AM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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I heard on my local Philly Radio today that the state of N.J. is planning to ration care and provide only “Palliative care” to the elderly patients.


30 posted on 03/30/2020 10:27:12 AM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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The NYPost reported that NY does have a triage law that targets old people. Doubt they are there yet.


33 posted on 03/31/2020 12:24:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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