God love you and take care of you.
Posted on 03/25/2020 9:23:43 AM PDT by kiryandil
Why are you so intent that a malaria drug is the cure for this disease? Let me turn your own question on you? I know the answer. You are scared and want answers. Denial, anger, bargaining, acceptance. I’m just trying to help you and you keep shooting the messenger.
I’m intent upon hydrochloroquine and zpak because hydrochloroquine is very well tested, understood via decades of use outside of malaria, side effects are well known and minimal for most individuals, and primarily because it’s cheap due to being off patent. It can be ramped up and produced at quantity immediately with no price gouging. Standard of care of course involves newer patented antivirals that work no better according to everything I’ve read over the past week, that cost anywhere from four to ten times as much. Multiply that across tens of millions likely to eventually need treatment. I can see why pharmaceutical companies are salivating and why they’d want to tout their antivirals as somehow preferable... $$$ and a lot of them. Conversely, since a lot of this is coming out of the public treasury I’m sure you can envision as a conservative yourself why the cheaper but just as effective treatment is preferable. We’re already going trillions into the hole over this, I’d rather not pile on. Make sense?
McCall is Resistance all the way.
Worse, she's one of the smart ones who doesn't leave her "Resist Trump!" vomit all over Twitter.
You actually have to dig a little before you find out what she's all about.
Some of these younger Lefty activist "journalists" are getting smart - they hide their tracks so they can publish "objective" hitpieces against their political enemies.
Their less computer-savvy elders aren't bright enough to figure out that their Twitter opinions can be scanned for their open bias.
Thanks for the heads-up!
Parroting a new study from China which compares efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine alone to the efficacy of the new retrovirals toward clearing the virus from test subjects. They are roughly on par for effectiveness.
He didn't have time to objectively evaluate what information was being presented.
This is his own hobbyhorse, and he's gonna ride that baby to death!
I guess I must be one of the lucky ones. I’ve been on hydroxychloroquine for a couple of years for my rheumatoid arthritis and have no problems with it. I’ve got several co-morbidities including severe heart failure and am older than dirt, so maybe I will survive this crisis. :-)
I live in the high desert. During most of the year the RH is 15-20% during the day, often as low as 7%. Influenza disappears about May 15. Coincides with school getting out. But the dryness factor of membranes goes up. More people have a dry cough during the Summer. Seems to run counter to the conventional wisdom.
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-conventional-care-study-1494176
Definitely Resistance, with a side of Xi's American Media sockpuppet for flavor.
God love you and take care of you.
In view of your interest this is a link to the Google doc statement of the doctor who treated 350 patients in NY. He outlines his indications, dosage, rational & results
My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.
As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).
My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.
Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.
Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.
In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
I believe that yesterday (Mar 24th) was the day that clinical trials of hydrochloroquine was supposed to start in NY hospitals.
Checking the NY numbers here:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Mar 24th New cases +5,473 New deaths +114
Mar 25th New cases +4,463 New deaths +14
Granted, the 25th (today) is not over yet, so maybe too early to notice a true trend yet, but I think something to keep an eye on.
Thanks for your well wishes, kiryandil, God sent me a saint for a husband. We’ve been married for 52 years, and he is taking such good care of me. I know it must be tough on him. He’s got his own health challenges. They are just not quite as severe as mine.
Thanks.
Z Packs we have. Got those from a vet supply store months ago.
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Looks like yes. the have a cc setting.
Scott advised that even if it only works on the placebo effect, placebos are known to have an effect.
Which 5 days? Mar 17 to Mar23? And then sent this out? With no follow up. Into the trash it goes.
It’s true. Placebos rarely work in the ICU.
You pretty much have to have a conscious patient for placebos to work, on the patient. In that instance they can be highly effective, on the doctor.
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