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Corona Virus Daily Thread #26

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Black Agnes

I saw a post earlier that compared the daily CV deaths to the daily flu deaths in Milan, but I don’t recall the details.

However there have been many posts of articles and videos showing a 10-fold increase in obituaries from a month ago. So that might give you a sense of the increase in deaths.

Too many people playing number games for political ends. Have to rely on secondary indicators.


941 posted on 03/24/2020 9:50:41 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: ncalburt

Too bad NY doesn’t :(


942 posted on 03/24/2020 9:51:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long; Black Agnes; SE Mom

check out also Dr. Seheult’s video my last post re: using the BCG vaccine to wake up the innate and specific immune system. about 13 min in. He says current trials ongoing with doctors/nurses/seniors in Europe/UK. Which makes me wonder, could childhood vaccines in childhood be the reason kids are relatively unharmed by Wuhan Virus? (and do childhood immunities not really last a lifetime if that lifetime exceeds say 60?)

from one of his links:
Receipt of BCG vaccine was associated with a reduction in all cause mortality:
https://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5170


943 posted on 03/24/2020 9:53:04 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

I doubt that childhood vaccines are why the kiddos aren’t getting sick. Their immune systems are just different. It’s why they get chickenpox and mumps and it’s not a big deal. Get those at 30 and it’s a really big deal sometimes.

Doctors and nurses particularly get the ‘whole schedule’ before they start rounds from what I understand. My niece who is a pharmacist did too. She got like 5 or 6 jabs over a week or two.


944 posted on 03/24/2020 9:55:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Mariner

The 90% loss was both to the entire population of the pre-Columbian Americas in general, which took more than 150 years, and to that of pre-Conquest Mexico in particular, which took 50-60 years. Hundreds of waves of epidemic diseases, mostly new ones, swept across them in that period. The major killer in Mexico was measles, not smallpox. I don’t know if there was a dominant killer for all of the Americas.


945 posted on 03/24/2020 9:58:48 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Black Agnes

I’m wondering the same, about NY.

How is the daily, overall death rate, now, comparing to last year?

Just curious.


946 posted on 03/24/2020 9:59:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: mrsmith

At last!A levity post!
https://twitter.com/LariProbs/status/1242676840772370432
\LOL!


947 posted on 03/24/2020 10:01:06 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: All

Israel projecting as many as 1 million could be infected in a month, with 10,000 dead.

Bibi.

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/1656-Israeli-infected-with-coronavirus-Health-Ministry-622101


948 posted on 03/24/2020 10:01:06 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

not sure if it’s sick ‘sick’ or blue flu sick protest sick


949 posted on 03/24/2020 10:02:24 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

i don’t understand


950 posted on 03/24/2020 10:03:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: justa-hairyape

“Dont we get hit with a new mutated flu strain every single year ? Do we need a vaccine every year for the new Wuhan strain ?”

No. Usually it’s one or more of the old strains. They have some process for deciding which flu strains to include in the vaccine. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes, not so much.

When a new strain appears it is usually in the form of a pandemic because nobody’s immune system has seen it before. Then it becomes a member of the “old strains club” and gets rotated into the vaccine cycle when they develop one.

Vaccine development is normally about an 18 month process, so it is typically two flu seasons before it gets included. The second season the strain won’t generally be as bad because there will be some herd immunity acquired from the prior year.

Viruses also mutate. DNA based viruses (like some that cause some kinds of warts, IIRC) not nearly as quickly as RNA (like CCP-19, the cold and influenza) viruses. But how the virus mutates will affect how immunity is carried forward. If it mutates in a way that is invisible to your immune system, you stay immunized. If it mutates in a way that makes it look different, you lose at least some immunity.


951 posted on 03/24/2020 10:06:47 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: calenel

Nevada’s chief medical officer not licensed to practice medicine in U.S.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/11/ihsan-azzam-nevada-chief-medical-officer-not-licen/

There’s got to be an argument for doctors to ignore this EO by the gov..


952 posted on 03/24/2020 10:08:21 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mariner

“Projecting as many as...”
A little ‘wriggle room’ there LOL!
IDK. We’ll see. They certainly have to be careful.


953 posted on 03/24/2020 10:08:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: FreedomPoster

I don’t think it’s even legal. Telling doctors which drugs they can give out in violation of federal compassionate use laws, never mind without a legislative vehicle. Lawsuit city.


954 posted on 03/24/2020 10:13:06 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Jane Long

https://hbr.org/2020/02/how-coronavirus-could-impact-the-global-supply-chain-by-mid-march?ab=hero-subleft-1


955 posted on 03/24/2020 10:17:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Mariner

not wanting to come in until they get PPE or maybe stronger curfews/quarantines


956 posted on 03/24/2020 10:23:31 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Bill Gates said the US missed its chance to avoid a coronavirus shutdown and recommended businesses stay closed for 6 to 10 weeks

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-said-us-missed-194906012.html

Dreaming...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU3-lS_Gryk

Not relevant, but above is one of the greatest rock drummers...


957 posted on 03/24/2020 10:28:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Apropos of nothing perhaps:

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2020/03/blind-items-revealed-5_24.html


958 posted on 03/24/2020 10:29:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Or, perhaps...something.

But I don’t know if it’s relevant.


959 posted on 03/24/2020 10:34:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

here’s something interesting. See his links for national challenge (Canada) and request for proposals (UK) and other pertinent links

Low-Cost Open Source Ventilator-ish Device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n57u1NvXBgw

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960 posted on 03/24/2020 10:46:52 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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