[God luvs America]

my daughters friend was over the past couple of days as school is out...her father is a surgeon in Westchester County Medical Center and her sister works in administration at the hospital...

the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

i said this is no different than the hysteria of people hoarding toilet paper...all these people rushing to the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

[fireman15]

the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

We live in Western Washington. I was a fire officer for 25 years. I called my best friend who is a battalion chief and still working. He said that they were exhausted because of all the people who have no actual symptoms but they think that they might have had an exposure and they are sure that they have the virus. The same panic that has made it impossible to find flour, sugar, rice, toilet paper and paper towels is straining the EMS system.

[Autonomous User]

Everyone was Kung Flu flighting

They were funky China men from funky Chinatown
They were chopping them up and they were chopping them down

[SanchoP]

the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

My son said the same about the hospital in Austin. They're turning them away because they have no symptoms. It's crazy what mass hysteria will do.

[GOPmember]

the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

Precisely. The overload is likely in large part due to media-driven hysteria leading to everyone and their dog thinking that a mild cough and sneezing (at the beginning of allergy season in a good portion of the country, no less) means that they are dying from SARS-CoV-2.

I've asked this before, and I'll keep asking it until I find a reliable published answer....

Exactly what criteria are being used to determine the cause of death in patients who have died and who have also tested positive for SARS-CoV-2?

Clinical and radiographic evidence of pneumonia in the absence of bacterial growth from sputum/blood cultures, together with atypical radiographic +/- lab results? Non-specific ground glass opacities on CT imaging? ARDS without any other apparent inciting cause? Are we testing viral loads and correlating this with severity of illness in patient subgroups?

Or, have we been taking Italy's approach, where reportedly they've simply been calling any death with positive test results a "COVID-19 death"? If they instead had done stool sample cultures of all those patients, would we be hearing about the pandemic of E. coli-related deaths in Italy?

Do we have any idea how Iran, China, et al determined SARS-CoV-2 to be the cause of death in their patients? Look at Germany's case fatality numbers...they're minuscule. Have they been using rigid cause-of-death criteria when the rest of the world hasn't?

The data show that this strain causes mild to no symptoms in the majority of patients. And, at last check, we haven't done large random population sampling in the U.S. yet. So, we don't know how ubiquitous this strain is. Many deaths will test positive for the virus. Positive testing results are by no means prima facie evidence that the virus directly or indirectly killed a patient.

One would think that we are actually making efforts to prove causation, not just correlation. But, since the stench of politicization has been steaming off the issue from the onset, and since the media has taken the reins and has frenzied this horse into a full gallop, all bets may well be off.

[HandyDandy]

”the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...”

Don’t they know what their first step is supposed to be if they suspect they have it? There is a protocol of screening. In my state, I am supposed to call my PCP for a “telemedicine” as a screening filter.

[gogeo]

the sister in the hospital said its crazy the number of people besieging the hospital because they “think” they have the wuhan virus...

Pastor told me once you needed to know the campers from the counselors before you got to summer camp/

It appears the world is full of campers.