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To: teppe
Thank-you for your reasoned reply ... except for the anti-mormon fake news/slander .

What fake news/slander? You have consistently failed to substantiate anything contrary to what what substantiated, and instead your recourse continues to be that of alleging a lack of warrant for standard Christian theology, which is actually the very thing distinctive Mormonic doctrine lacks.

First of all, of course I believe that Christ is divine. He is the only-begotten son of the Father, Almighty God.

Cease with your sophistry. You are to believe in a sexually-active exalted man-god with a physical body of flesh and blood, who became God by obedience to a god over him, and a christ who was the spirit child along with Lucifer of a Heavenly Mother (you may optionally also believe this christ had multiple wives, and His father ), and yet you are told this is what 1st century Christians believed.

And yet you protest in your ignorance of Scripture and standard Christian doctrine that the latter is wrong.

He is the only-begotten son of the Father, Almighty God. ...But don’t take my word for it, .... “John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” So as I understand it .... you don’t believe that Christ was the only begotten Son of God?

You mean Christ was born of a sexually active man-God and his heavenly wife, rather than existing "from everlasting," "the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (John 1:18)

Rather, as words are in your heart and express you, so Christ was and is ever in the bosom of the Father, but as the only begotten Son He is the manifest expression of the Father not simply on earth but in Heaven, whom all the angels worship as God. (Hebrews 1:5) beyond that we are dealing with a mystery upon which man make speculate, but which excludes your sexually-active exalted man-god with a physical body of flesh and blood, who became God by obedience to a god over him, and a christ who was the spirit child along with Lucifer of a Heavenly Mother, etc. etc..

Deal with your own massive problems rather than alleging discrepancies on our end.

314 posted on 03/25/2020 7:37:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212; teppe

To Teppe: The entire book of the gospel of John weighs against Mormonism....Starting with the first chapter...

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God...”

Chapter 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us...”

Chapter 8:58” “Verily I say unto you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM(!).”

Exodus: and God told Moses “I AM(!) that I AM(!), tell the people I AM(!) hath sent thee!

Christ was with the Father from the foundation of the world and there is nothing that exists Jesus was not a part of the creating, there-of!


316 posted on 03/25/2020 8:00:52 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: daniel1212

Wow .... before you explain my beliefs to me could you please cite the LDS scriptures which you are referring to?

As with all religions, there is speculation and accepted doctrine. Apparently you do not understand the difference.
Your insistence that any person who has ever been LDS making a comment about their beliefs as being official church doctrine is laughable.

I would appreciate it if you would stop slandering God, the Father of Jesus Christ.

Apparently your problem is with Christ’s Apostle John who said Christ was the only begotten son of God the Father.

I’m sorry that you disagree with John. I am merely believing the words which he testified to.


318 posted on 03/25/2020 8:20:12 AM PDT by teppe
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To: daniel1212; Elsie

I would ask kindly that you stop printing the truly blasphemous and vile comments you relate to LDS Doctrine that you will find exactly nowhere in the four volumes of scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ or in books printed by the Church.

I would suggest at the very least that you use techniques utilized by Elsie from books, scripture and quotes of in some cases long dead members to make your point. Posting those things you have, heaven and yourself only know where you find them, but you will not find them as written anywhere in any Church published or approved source.

You might also contemplate reducing the number of times outside of scriptural references that you abuse the name of your Creator and His Father.


322 posted on 03/25/2020 9:44:14 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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