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Utah earthquake damages Mormon temple and knocks trumpet from iconic angel statue
CNN ^ | 1:08 PM ET, Wed March 18, 2020 | Daniel Burke

Posted on 03/18/2020 4:48:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

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To: teppe

I John tells us clearly “I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may ‘Know’ that you have eternal life.”

It is through and by the authority and reliability of God’s Word that we examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith of what we profess....not by man’s opinions, a churches demands, nor how one feels.....As I John tells us clearly.... “I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may ‘Know’ that you have eternal life.”......

Salvation is not a guessing and hoping game...it is ‘a certainty’ we can and should know because God says so just as it’s written as God intended in Romans 10:9-10 which says it very clearly.......”That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”


221 posted on 03/24/2020 9:58:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212

Could we get Mitt Romney to climb up and put it back in place?


222 posted on 03/24/2020 10:04:32 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Could we get Mitt Romney to climb up and put it back in place?

After he blows it.

223 posted on 03/24/2020 10:06:10 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: wita; aMorePerfectUnion
I would suggest to JimRob to stop tolerating the people and religion bashing that has gone on far too long on the various anti-religion threads. Biblical Christianity speaks against such things and says we should treat one another as we would desire to be treated, to love one another and forgive one another our faults if we truly desire to be forgiven of our own.

Well, this is his site and he can do as he pleases with it. However, to limit speech, if there is a religion forum, would go against the name of the site...FREE REPUBLIC.

There are some from another denomination whose HQ is overseas who don't like it when their denomination's false teachings are exposed either.

I'll ask this question...if you see someone driving down the road and you know the bridge up ahead is out....should you stop them and tell them or let them find out on their own?

Now for the application.

If someone is headed to Hell, wouldn't it be the Christian thing to share the Gospel with them and hopefully stop them from going to Hell?

224 posted on 03/24/2020 10:07:59 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: HarleyD

“ Could we get Mitt Romney to climb up and put it back in place?”

BLAHAHAHA!

It is a fiberglass figure, just like Ronald McDonald, or Colonel Sanders - and less historically accurate.


225 posted on 03/24/2020 10:08:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There seems to be a lot of anti Mormon sentiment on Free Republic. I’ve never understood it.

Then how can you contend for anything? And when any church proclaims it is the one true church than it is making itself an object of challenges.

But right now I am going outside (thank God i can) despite the Covid captivity and hysteria virus.

226 posted on 03/24/2020 10:08:34 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; caww; daniel1212

Saul, Let’s save 2nd, 3rd and 4th base for after 1st base.

You have not proved that you can defend your own beliefs in Christ? If you can’t define/defend your own beliefs .....

.....why should I care about your attacks on my belief in Christ?

Exactly which scriptures in the New Testament do you base your belief in a Triune God????

If you reject Christ’s words in John 17:20-22 because it doesn’t fit your Christology .... how about Christ’s ascension in Mark 16:

19 ¶ So then after the a Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

So...the Lord, Christ ascended to heaven and sat on the right hand of God???

So is Christ as Lord secondary to God? God has a right hand?

He’s not a mystical three-in-one; one in three; sometimes one but never three; sometimes three but never one?

OK .... I have put your Christology in biblical ‘Check’ twice.

What is your reply? Can you defend your Christology or only attack other peoples belief in Christ? (pretty much a definition of hypocrite!)

Or .... do you reject Mark 16 as well as John 17 because it doesn’t fit the Tri-une Christology that Emperors Constantine, Julian the Apostate and Theodosius edict-ed?


227 posted on 03/24/2020 10:15:05 AM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

8th time you avoided answering even one question... even after I complied with your request.

This is simply not dealing honestly with fellow men.

Now we know.

No temple recommend, sorry. You were so close.


228 posted on 03/24/2020 10:26:39 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe
Sorry, as this scripture so clearly teaches/proves.... the oneness of Christ is in purpose not being.

One can make the scriptures prove almost anything...But at the same time, the scripture DOES prove that the oneness of Christ is in purpose AND being...But no amount of biblical proof will be sufficient for those of your religion since the problem is unbelief in the scriptures...

229 posted on 03/24/2020 10:29:35 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

“ But no amount of biblical proof will be sufficient for those of your religion since the problem is unbelief in the scriptures...

A mormon’s feelings alway have more authority than Scripture... and this is why they squeal so much when you point out objective facts, post in all caps, and call names.

and of course they devalue the authority of Scripture.


230 posted on 03/24/2020 10:39:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Iscool; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; caww; daniel1212

Try me ....

Show me where the Bible teaches that God/Christ/Holy Ghost relationship is as defined in the Athenasian Creed .... which as I understand it is pretty much the basis of the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’.


231 posted on 03/24/2020 11:00:36 AM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

“No temple recommend for you!”

........

At this point, your post was totally dishonest.

Keep your word, or be ignored bro.


232 posted on 03/24/2020 11:19:02 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe; aMorePerfectUnion
Exactly which scriptures in the New Testament do you base your belief in a Triune God????

There are many...That's why we believe it...

Speaking of Jesus; Col_2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

We know the Godhead is a Trinity because we are a trinity...

1Th_5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

We are three persons in one body...And why are we made to be three persons??? So we would be a copy of Him/Them (God)...

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Let us make man in our image??? What image...God the father doesn't have an image...He is Spirit...

Heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

1Ti 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

God the Father was manifest in the flesh because he doesn't have any flesh of his own...But yet he does...Jesus is his flesh...

There is tons of scriptural proof of the Trinity...

Col 1:14  In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 
Col 1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 
Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 

1Jn 5:7  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 

233 posted on 03/24/2020 11:52:05 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: teppe
Show me where the Bible teaches that God/Christ/Holy Ghost relationship is as defined in the Athenasian Creed .... which as I understand it is pretty much the basis of the ‘Doctrine of the Trinity’.

The bible is the basis of the doctrine of the Trinity, not the Athenasian Creed...The Creed was written based on the information that was found in the scriptures...

234 posted on 03/24/2020 11:58:06 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Nice to see you. How goes it in your world?

Locked away in the bunker lol.

235 posted on 03/24/2020 12:32:30 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: Godzilla

You sound like us :-)

Why take chances...?


236 posted on 03/24/2020 12:33:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie
I have put your Christology in ‘Check’ with John 17: 20-22. I sincerely believe that it is ‘Check-mate’.

Sorry teppe - that is called cherry picking. that verse must also be viewed in light of John 1:1, Colossians 2:9 Titus 2:13, 2 Peter 1:1, Deuteronomy 4:35,39 Deut 32:39 and Isaiah 43:10,11. Just to name a few. Those who bother to study the nature of God in the bible note:

1. There is only one TRUE God in all existence

2. The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all called God

You cannot 'checkmate' anyone on the basis of one cherry picked verse.

237 posted on 03/24/2020 12:43:24 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You sound like us :-) Why take chances...?

not given any choice

238 posted on 03/24/2020 12:47:02 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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To: Godzilla

Godzilla, I lived in Montana for 2.5 years in the 80s, in Bozeman. Nice town at the time.

Winter lasted 9 months each years though...


239 posted on 03/24/2020 1:00:07 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I graduated from “moo-u” in 83, we may have overlapped. Yes, it was much better then. Now the swamp has overtaken it and turned it into a berkeley lite. Looking to depart kalifornia for Butte MT this summer - semiretirement, ahhhhh


240 posted on 03/24/2020 1:06:25 PM PDT by Godzilla ( I just love the smell of COVFEFE in the morning . . . .)
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