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To: Steve Van Doorn

I responded to you initially because you did two things - promoting Quercetin as a *1 absolute cure and promoting potential bronchial damage as your #3 absolute cure.

I disputed Quercetin as an easy-peasy over-the-counter cure. Quercetin is quickly excreted with a half-life of about an hour and “undergoes rapid and extensive metabolism that makes the biological effects presumed from in vitro studies unlikely to apply in vivo.”

I pointed out the many drug interactions, and agreed there may be a therapeutic benefit to chloroquine. (And argued hydroxychloroquine seems a safer alternative). Which, by the way, is not over-the-counter, as you claimed. It’s RX only in the US. And both also have contraindications.*

I think it’s important not to be cavalier and say, hey I have 3 cures everybody! take Quercetin, or this or that. Someone not as informed or educated as you are, someone who is panicked, won’t even think about whether there are serious drug interactions or side effects. Like attempting to burn your lungs to 104 for an hour and, hey, that’s cure #3.

On a lighter note, the Korean study of 100 patients was released and talked about today. Citing chloroquine use on the recommendation of China (30 days after the fact)**. Not with zinc, just chloroquine. The French micro-study used Placquenil paired with Azithromycin, an antibiotic. (Did the CCP whisper to France, too?) U of Queensland will conduct a much larger study to look at the efficacy of the treatment on viral suppression, but also the possible role of hydroxychloroquine’s buffering aspect in preventing cytokine storm (and the role of cytokines in supercharging viral replication). No word if they will include zinc (but it would be cool if they did) ;)

*Treating COVID-19 with chloroquine, as is being done in South Korea and China does have the potential to lead to a mutation.
**In early February, Chongqing Kangle Pharmaceutical was requested...to promptly increase...production of... chloroquine phosphate

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTi-g18ftNZUMRAj2SwRPodtscFio7bJ7GdNgbJAGbdfF67WuRJB3ZsidgpidB2eocFHAVjIL-7deJ7/pub


1,174 posted on 03/18/2020 8:46:08 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum
said, "I responded to you initially because you did two things - promoting Quercetin as a *1 absolute cure"

I haven't talked in terms of absolutes since i was in grade school. You must have me mixed up with someone else or maybe you're not reading my posts?

said, "I disputed Quercetin as an easy-peasy over-the-counter cure"

So do I. if anyone makes that argument i would explain how they're mistaken. If you think you're sick you should talk to a doctor. My argument is preventative.

Thank you for the link. That is intersting

1,176 posted on 03/18/2020 10:37:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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