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Corona Virus Thread #19
March 17th, 2020

Posted on 03/17/2020 8:36:27 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: LilFarmer

Yikes.....to that chart.

Who is this guy, that did the chart?

Any idea/info? Thanks much.


701 posted on 03/17/2020 8:35:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: BobL
this is a virus, and thus cannot reproduce (or replicate) without a host...whereas a bacteria can definitely reproduce without any outside help.

So you’re saying that this virus could not possibly have gotten into the ventilation systems of cruise ships or nursing homes??

702 posted on 03/17/2020 8:36:11 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: mrsmith

Is that different than googling ‘Covid Temperature”?

:-)


703 posted on 03/17/2020 8:36:24 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: daniel1212

I’m keeping an eye on stats for my state on their Site, which includes the nations stats including deaths.

So far my area has no confirmed cases though there are three counties below mine reporting them. So it’s just a matter of time.


704 posted on 03/17/2020 8:37:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: RaceBannon; Thud

Ping to the bioweapon post.


705 posted on 03/17/2020 8:39:14 PM PDT by Dark Wing (terrorism, disease, public health)
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To: Jane Long

Everybody can suit themselves. I’ve had my say.

I think they’ve all seen my earlier post that I’ve been to the liquor store and are just laying for me... LOL!


706 posted on 03/17/2020 8:42:15 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

Are “abortion clinics” allowed to stay open? They should be repurposed as Chinese Flu testing sites.


707 posted on 03/17/2020 8:43:04 PM PDT by HandyDandy (All right then I will go to hell. Huckleberry Finn)
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To: Vermont Lt
Assume 1/3 of America contracts CoVid-19, half of whom have little or no symptoms. 1/3 of 330 million people = 110 million. Half have symptoms = 55 million. 20% of those need hospitalization = 11 million. 1/3 of those require intensive care = 3.67 million. The average hospital stay for CoVid-19 is allegedly 20 days.

20 days x 11 million = 220 million hospital days required, say spread out over the next nine months. 220/9 = 24.4 million hospital days needed per month. We have about 1 million hospital beds in the country, of which 2/3 are normally filled by non-Covid-19 victims. 30 days per month x 1 million hospital beds = 30 million beds nominally available, but only 1/3 really are = 10 million hospital bed days really available. Against a fresh demand of 24.4 million bed days per month.

We have only about a third or half of the hospital beds we’d need if the CoVid-19 demand of those remains steady over the nine months, but the Imperial College of London study shows we instead face two huge spikes in demand, the first in June-July and the second in September October. Those months will be horrid.

Worse, we have only 95,000 intensive care hospital beds, and about 75,000 medical ventilators, against demand for 3.67 million CoVid-19 intensive care beds, most to almost all of whom will require ventilators for some or most of their stay in ICU’s. Assume half of their average 20 days hospitalization is in ICU’s. 10 days x 3.67 million = 36.7 million ICU bed days. But 95,000 ICU beds x 270 = 25.65 maximum available ICU bed days over the nine months. And most of the 25.65 million ICU bed days demand will take place in only 4 months – June-July and September-October.

The Imperial College London study prediction of 1.1 million American dead by the end of this year is very credible. It could easily be 2.2 million dead given that most of the demand for ICU beds will occur during the four months of massive spikes in demand.

"I did some back of the envelope math the other night ..."

708 posted on 03/17/2020 8:44:51 PM PDT by Thud
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To: EarlyBird

“Even though my neighbor’s driveway is less than 10 feet away from my own, and that she has a hacking cough, and that she told me that her coworker returned recently from Spain and went home sick, I can be sure I can’t get the virus in my HVAC from her? “

Hmmm, a bit different than my 50 acres (just kidding). Yes, that’s tight, but having open windows likely invites more of the virons than (mostly) circulating relatively clean air...unless the windows are on the side opposite of the neighbor.


709 posted on 03/17/2020 8:44:53 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: EarlyBird

“So you’re saying that this virus could not possibly have gotten into the ventilation systems of cruise ships or nursing homes?? “

Nope - it was DEFINITELY in those systems, but it wasn’t replicating in those systems - it cannot. Instead you had sick people on the boat dumping virons into the constantly re-circulating air, by the ‘boatload’, building up the concentration of the virons higher and higher over the days. As the concentration of virons went higher and higher, more and more people couldn’t fight it off, and got infected.


710 posted on 03/17/2020 8:49:10 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: mrsmith
"Masked Mao Balding 大老板 Retweeted Josiah

False positive rates of 80%! Assume for one minute 80% of the cases in other countries are false positives. The only overall point is that testing accuracy is an enormous issue. "

711 posted on 03/17/2020 8:49:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: datura
said, "Who knew that “OTC” compounds (zinc Oxide with a zinc ionaphor) can cure cancer and stop WuFlu? Of course to call those studies OTC is beyond ridiculous"

you're making it sound more complicated then it is

712 posted on 03/17/2020 8:49:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: BobL

I’m just saying that especially in hotspot areas, certain buildings could be infected. Like churches, restaurants, gyms, even grocery stores and offices.

If these places have closed ventilation systems, just walking inside could get you a viral load that you may not survive.

Food for thought.


713 posted on 03/17/2020 8:50:45 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: Jane Long

The 14-20% hospitalization rate is what was Wuhan and Italy were reporting


714 posted on 03/17/2020 8:51:44 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: LilFarmer

Yep.

I see that the Navy is readying med ships to offer assistance. Each one has 1,000 beds.

Wondering if they’re heading to NY.


715 posted on 03/17/2020 8:54:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: Jane Long

He’s a cardiologist, looks to be an Obamabot, but the numbers appear to be accurate.


716 posted on 03/17/2020 8:55:04 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Steve Van Doorn

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717 posted on 03/17/2020 8:55:53 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: riri

“Community Infections”?


718 posted on 03/17/2020 8:56:05 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: LilFarmer; bgill; sockmonkey

Also saw where TX Gov Abbott has inacted the TX National Guard.

Not deploying (yet), just activating.

https://www.caller.com/story/news/local/texas/state-bureau/2020/03/17/coronavirus-texas-greg-abbott-activates-texas-national-guard-battle-covid-19/5069030002/


719 posted on 03/17/2020 8:56:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: EarlyBird

“I’m just saying that especially in hotspot areas, certain buildings could be infected. Like churches, restaurants, gyms, even grocery stores and offices...If these places have closed ventilation systems, just walking inside could get you a viral load that you may not survive.”

A bit different than I see it. I don’t see building being infected, but rather the air in the building. And since the virus only survives for 3 or 4 hours in the air and can’t replicate in the air, once the cause of the virons is removed, that mode of transmission ceases several hours later. Now, could the virons also be on surfaces, active and in quantities able to infect most people? I have no clue on that.


720 posted on 03/17/2020 8:57:29 PM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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