Coronavirus Live Thread. No 12

3/8/2020

[Vermont Lt]

Continuation of the thread.

[bgill]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486385-nyc-begs-for-more-coronavirus-tests-claiming-slow-federal-action-impeding

March 6 - “Perea-Henze noted in the letter the two testing kits the state public health lab received from the CDC does not meet the needs of America’s most populated city. Each kit can run about 800 tests.”

[Black Agnes]

Actually there was a paper on the cv thread that indicated kids were just as likely to GET the infection, and shed virus, but WAY less likely to actually become really ill.

It’s also spread via feces and urine.

So avoid public restrooms...the low flow toilets aerosolize it and spread it that way.

See SARS and ‘Amoy Gardens’ for info on how that works...One infected person managed to infect a whole apartment block/wing via misplumbed potties and a ‘fart plume’.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/926390 (for THIS coronavirus)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16696450 (for SARS transmission via ‘airborne fecal matter’) (if you can smell it, it can infect you)

Just ‘washing your hands’ doesn’t keep you from getting it. Healthcare people in level 3 suits still get it.

I’d be willing to bet if you tested every NJT bus driver right now a significant percentage of them would be positive. Ditto MTA bus drivers.

[justa-hairyape]

One would think if the normal flu can kill that many in a year, a more deadly one could kill even more. But I digress.

[dfwgator]

Anyone who has flown in a plane the past few months most likely has been exposed.

[Solson]

Because business gets done face to face. All of the INTERNAL meetings should be conducted by webex or similar. We make it a habit to turn on the video. That helps tremendously.

[Black Agnes]

Yup yup yup.

Which explains the FL order to quarantine for 14 days if you have flown ANYWHERE internationally.

The planes are likely loaded with it now.

[LilFarmer]

I posted this a while back, takes about children spreading Covid19 (From Japan) “Among them, regarding Hokkaido, "it is thought that there are many tourists from China and it is thought that those people spread the infection", and given the situation where infected people are scattered throughout the province, considering the population ratio According to the report, the number of infected cases is overwhelmingly large in remote areas. In addition, people with mild symptoms are thought to play an important role in spreading infection in Hokkaido without noticing, especially among young people, the rate of severe disease is very low and the situation of infection spread is not visible As a result, it is believed that many middle-aged and elderly people are infected as a result. And about ▼ of the infected people, about 80% did not infect other people, while in cases where one or more people were infected at a close distance for a certain period of time in a closed indoor space. It has been reported. Furthermore, in urban areas in Hokkaido, where there are many young generations, people with active social and economic activities are more likely to gather in places where these infection risks are high, and it is said that infection is spreading without realizing it. It is believed that the infection has spread as people move to other parts of Hokkaido.” https://www.nhk.or.jp/sapporo-news/20200302/7000018570.html Comment: Japan’s first case was Jan 15, one week before the US. They closed schools Feb 27.

[janetjanet998]

BREAKING: Israel extends coronavirus 2weeks mandatory self-quarantine order to ALL arrivals from ALL countries

[LilFarmer]

I posted this a while back, takes about children spreading Covid19 (From Japan)

“Among them, regarding Hokkaido, “it is thought that there are many tourists from China and it is thought that those people spread the infection”, and given the situation where infected people are scattered throughout the province, considering the population ratio According to the report, the number of infected cases is overwhelmingly large in remote areas.

In addition, people with mild symptoms are thought to play an important role in spreading infection in Hokkaido without noticing, especially among young people, the rate of severe disease is very low and the situation of infection spread is not visible As a result, it is believed that many middle-aged and elderly people are infected as a result.

And about of the infected people, about 80% did not infect other people, while in cases where one or more people were infected at a close distance for a certain period of time in a closed indoor space. It has been reported.

Furthermore, in urban areas in Hokkaido, where there are many young generations, people with active social and economic activities are more likely to gather in places where these infection risks are high, and it is said that infection is spreading without realizing it. It is believed that the infection has spread as people move to other parts of Hokkaido.”

https://www.nhk.or.jp/sapporo-news/20200302/7000018570.html

[RightGeek]

Coronavirus update: Princeton U. to start mandatory virtual classes, tells students to stay home after spring break - https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-update-princeton-u-announces-mandatory-virtual-classes-tells-students-to-stay-home-after-spring-break.html

[RightGeek]

BREAKING: It’s Suddenly Racist to Say ‘Wuhan Virus’ - https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-its-suddenly-racist-to-say-wuhan-virus/

[LilFarmer]

I’ve read some very interesting theories about people having had the flu shot getting more severe symptoms, healthcare, aged, etc. of course, other things like viral load and co-morbity could explain the same groups. I would think it’s worthwhile to see if the healthy young people getting severe disease had flu vaccination.

I do remember reading with SARS there was some connection but I think that was a SARS vaccination.

PS, people I am not an anti-vaxer, I’m just putting this out there...

[cgbg]

Diamond Princess:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_on_cruise_ships

I am still looking for age data.

[LilFarmer]

Ages and all sorts of Diamond Princess data here:

https://www.niid.go.jp/niid/en/2019-ncov-e/9417-covid-dp-fe-02.html

[blueplum]

Wuhan flu Wuhan flu Wuhan flu
the Chinese have perfected racism, especially towards Americans, and I’ll not be labeled by any of their sympathizers
Wuhan flu Wuhan flu Wuhan flu

[Thud]

AFAIK, the maximum time CoVid-19 has been found to survive on a non-living object is nine days. I suspect there are exceptions.

[LilFarmer]

ITALY

Italian hospitals short of beds as coronavirus death toll jumps
Lombardy health system under pressure amid highest daily rise in deaths in country
Lorenzo Tondo in Palermo
Mon 9 Mar 2020 16.20 GMT

Hospitals in the locked down Italian region of Lombardy are beginning to run out of beds as the country recorded its highest day-on-day rise in deaths from coronavirus.

Twenty days into its outbreak, Italy is grappling to contain the spread of the virus and find space and beds in intensive care units, which are dwindling day by day. To manage the emergency, the sick are being placed in operating rooms or in hospital corridors.

“I am very concerned,” said Prof Massimo Galli, the director of infectious diseases at Sacco hospital in Milan. “The pressure on hospitals in Lombardy these days is enormous. I am very, very worried about the impact the virus will have on our health system.”...

...Coronavirus deaths in Italy increased from 233 to 366 on Monday, a rise of more than 50% in 24 hours, with the total number of cases of the virus at 7,375. Among these, 650 are in hospital intensive care...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/italian-hospitals-short-beds-coronavirus-death-toll-jumps

[Thud]

Trust the CDC. The CDC is your friend.

[LilFarmer]

Ok, I have to admit, reading that conjured up an image of Ben Stiller on the plane saying, “Bomb bomb boom, bomb bomb ba-bomb”... (Meet the Parents).

Sorry...lol

[bgill]

GA got 150 test kits vs. NY got 2. That makes no sense. GA must mean 150 individual tests. NY says a test kit has 800 tests. Somewhere along the line, GA got a portion of a whole kit, which also doesn’t make sense.

150 x 800 = 120,000