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To: BobL

It should scare you imho.

There is a Scandinavian study discussed earlier in these threads that says the virus can be spread be aerosol.

If true (and the study was convincing to me) then a non symptomatic infected person at CPAC (which we now believe we have) can just breath into the air. Their breath would get picked up the air circulation system in the room and would go into the hotel’s heating/ventilation/air conditioning system.

From there it could easily pass into another room in the hotel.

The Scandinavian study had a CV sick patient in a room. After the patient left the room they tested all parts of the room. The doorknobs, tabletops, bedding, chair all tested positive. More disturbing was that the air vents at the top of the walls also tested positive. That meant that the virus could travel upwards (aerosol).

The CDC is claiming the virus cannot do that.

That is why I want the President and the VP tested.


1,396 posted on 03/07/2020 3:17:58 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: cgbg

“If true (and the study was convincing to me) then a non symptomatic infected person at CPAC (which we now believe we have) can just breath into the air. Their breath would get picked up the air circulation system in the room and would go into the hotel’s heating/ventilation/air conditioning system.”

Actually, I think it’s a function of the concentration and length of time of the virons (or whatever they’re called...I’ll use virons). So a big room with high ceilings will dilute the virons of a carrier greatly and while everyone will breathe some, they won’t hit the ‘critical mass’ where their body’s first line of defense is overwhelmed (i.e., they’re infected) - but put that same carrier in a cab and things are completely different. If the concentration is low enough, which may be the case there, then very few, if any people will get infected. If this were not the case and instead any exposure assured infection, pretty much every human on the planet would have been infected a month ago. And while I’m at it, I still don’t think we can get anywhere near critical mass by touching a shopping cart, or gas pump, unless, maybe, someone had just sneezed on it.

I’m permitted to have a theory outside of the box, since I don’t work in the medical field. But I am glad to see that they’re finally, slowly, getting around to figuring this out.


1,410 posted on 03/07/2020 3:31:44 PM PST by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: cgbg

“There is a Scandinavian study discussed earlier in these threads that says the virus can be spread be aerosol.”

Below is a link to a medical paper from 2019 (Bird Flu) that talks about the virus in the air. All viruses are pretty much the same when it comes to size, density, etc. So these results would be similar for Covid-19. They are spread in the air at far distances and long linger times (hours).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2843947/

Excerpt:

Over the past few years, prompted by pandemic preparedness initiatives, the debate over the modes of transmission of influenza has been rekindled and several reviews have appeared.

Arguments supporting an important role for aerosol transmission that were reviewed included prolonged survival of the virus in aerosol suspensions, demonstration of the low infectious dose required for aerosol transmission in human volunteers, and clinical and epidemiological observations were disentanglements of large droplets and aerosol transmission was possible.

Since these reviews were published, several new studies have been done and generated new data. These include direct demonstration of the presence of influenza viruses in aerosolized droplets from the tidal breathing of infected persons and in the air of an emergency department; the establishment of the guinea pig model for influenza transmission, where it was shown that aerosol transmission is important and probably modulated by temperature and humidity; the demonstration of some genetic determinants of airborne transmission of influenza viruses as assessed using the ferret model; and mathematical modelling studies that strongly support the aerosol route. These recent results and their implication for infection control of influenza are discussed in this review.


1,468 posted on 03/07/2020 4:17:28 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: cgbg

Bkmk


1,562 posted on 03/07/2020 5:37:35 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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