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To: blueplum
Still early in Italy, but right now the resolved cases are running over 30 % fatal, reported here. Think we saw this in China early. Actually their resolved deaths were running higher than resolved recovered for awhile.

Italian Numbers

637 posted on 03/01/2020 10:47:22 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

yes, we did, 30% developed RDS and it got crazy from there

here’s the study that mentioned it, dated Feb 4:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300265?via%3Dihub


644 posted on 03/01/2020 11:12:54 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: justa-hairyape

China has posited that the high rate of mortality in Wuhan was prior exposure to SARS. I’m not sure if Italy was involved with the SARS, but they’re a good test of that Chinese claim.

” Individuals suffering the most may have been primed by one or more prior coronavirus exposures, and due to antigenic epitope heterogeneity, are experiencing the effects of antibody dependent enhancement (ADE).
This postulate isn’t novel as it has been found and characterized in the SARS coronavirus, SARS-CoV. Enhancement was identified by Yang et al. [6] in 2005 and was hypothesized as being the reason for such a high mortality rate in China [7].”
also from Science Direct, reposting from I dunno who posted it first:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300344?via%3Dihub


645 posted on 03/01/2020 11:19:54 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: justa-hairyape

italy may be a function of early contamination of hospitals.

or this is actually more fatal overall than alphabets have led us to believe. Unfortunately that is entirely possible, I would think. They would say the same things publicly no matter what.


763 posted on 03/02/2020 6:51:44 AM PST by ArfDog123ABC
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To: justa-hairyape

Again, could be some people with “colds” or asymptomatic not being counted.


818 posted on 03/02/2020 8:52:33 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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