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To: Kalamata

“When are you going to come to grips with the fact that many of the slave generations in the South were descendants of slaves sold by Northern slave masters and traders, and that the North got rich both trading slaves.”

Don’t need to. Was taught that more than 50 years ago.
Yes the New Englanders made money trading slaves. Yes the Boston, New York, and Philadelphia bankers financed the slave trade. They made money insuring the cotton cargos bound for Northern or European textile trades. They made money in shipping the cotton crop to New England and Europe. They made money loaning money to Southern planters to buy more land, and more slaves so they could grow more cotton.

“Slavery was a national problem.”

Agree


158 posted on 03/07/2020 10:21:16 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe; DiogenesLamp; jeffersondem; central_va; SecAmndmt; woodpusher
>>Bull Snipe wrote: "Yes the New Englanders made money trading slaves. Yes the Boston, New York, and Philadelphia bankers financed the slave trade. They made money insuring the cotton cargos bound for Northern or European textile trades. They made money in shipping the cotton crop to New England and Europe. They made money loaning money to Southern planters to buy more land, and more slaves so they could grow more cotton. “Slavery was a national problem.” – Agree.

If you are interested, a good book on that subject is "Complicity." This is from the front dust jacket flap:

"Slavery in the South has been documented in volumes ranging from exhaustive histories to bestselling, novels. But the Norths profit from—indeed, dependence on—slavery has mostly been a shameful and well-kept secret... until now. In this startling and superbly researched new book, three veteran New England journalists demythologize the region of America known for tolerance and liberation, revealing a place where thousands of people were held in bondage and slavery was both an economic dynamo and a necessary way of life."

"Complicity reveals the cruel truth about the Triangle Trade of molasses, rum, and slaves that lucratively linked the North to the West Indies and Africa; discloses the reality of Northern empires built on profits from rum, cotton, and ivory—and run, in some cases, by abolitionists; and exposes the thousand-acre plantations that existed in towns such as Salem, Connecticut. Here, too, are eye-opening accounts of the individuals who profited directly from slavery far from the Mason-Dixon line—including Nathaniel Gordon of Maine, the only slave trader ever sentenced to die in the United States, who even as an inmate of New York's infamous Tombs prison was supported by a shockingly large percentage of the city; Patty Cannon, whose brutal gang kidnapped free blacks from Northern states and sold them into slavery; and the Philadelphia doctor Samuel Morton, eminent in the nineteenth-century field of "race science," which purported to prove the inferiority of African-born black people."

[Farrow et al, "Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery." Ballentine Books, 2005, Front Jacket Flap]

Chapter 10, titled "Plunder for Pianos," exposes hypocritical abolitionists who opposed slavery, on the one hand, but supported it when it came to obtaining supplies for their ivory business.

Mr. Kalamata

172 posted on 03/07/2020 11:36:00 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Bull Snipe
Yes the New Englanders made money trading slaves. Yes the Boston, New York, and Philadelphia bankers financed the slave trade. They made money insuring the cotton cargos bound for Northern or European textile trades. They made money in shipping the cotton crop to New England and Europe. They made money loaning money to Southern planters to buy more land, and more slaves so they could grow more cotton.

And it was the likelihood that this money stream would cease, and worse, be used *AGAINST* them, that triggered the war necessary to stop this threat to their finances.

The money powers were fine with slavery so long as *THEY* controlled the slave produced money.

They were not about to let that money producing engine go independent. They would rather murder everyone in the South before they were going to allow that to happen.

190 posted on 03/07/2020 12:11:46 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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