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Phoenician ship completes Atlantic voyage [crew is pretty old now]
Lyme Regis ^ | February 7th, 2020 | Francesca Evans

Posted on 02/08/2020 10:08:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

The ancient estimate of the circumference of the Earth was known (as was the fact that the Earth’s a globe) was too large; Columbus used information from long distance voyages, including his own research in Iceland. His conclusion about the circumference was wrong , but he knew the landmass was there.


21 posted on 02/08/2020 10:41:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Popman

It’s a requirement.


22 posted on 02/08/2020 10:42:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Fai Mao

One of the stops for this replica included the former Portuguese colony of Mogador — the name echoes (perhaps a transliteration) Mago, one ancient Phoenician ruler or governor when it was a Phoenician/Carthaginian colony.


23 posted on 02/08/2020 10:43:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ll bet that trip got damn scary many times.


24 posted on 02/08/2020 10:44:27 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

No he had to get most of his crew from prisons because people knew that the earth was much bigger then he said it was.


I don’t know that the crew knew that, but that’s why he was rejected by every monarch he approached with his crazy idea. Spain was pretty feeling pretty generous after the Reconquista and took a chance on him.

The thing is, he thought he found what he was looking for—islands off of a continent—filled with people with long straight black hair, speaking strange languages and eating strange food, right where he expected to find it.

And yes, his math was rubbish.


25 posted on 02/08/2020 10:57:09 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: jacknhoo
Sounds great!

26 posted on 02/08/2020 10:58:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Grimmy

Yes, but the norsemen at least, left stones... just saying the ships could make it is good circumstantial stuff, and they probably did, but where are the picture stones...


27 posted on 02/08/2020 11:01:19 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: PIF

Opps that came out wrong and I posted accidentally

It was Solutrean boats around 16,000 BC that followed the land and the ice across the Atlantic to North America where their culture became known as Clovis - there’s an image on a French cave wall - that I have somewhere, but can’t find the image or reference at the moment - it shows the heads several people on a lateen rigged boat off a very thick mast with the stern trailing lines; the art uses the cave texture to give the illusion of a boat in a moderate sea. Its actually a very powerful image.

The Solutrean culture is associated with beautiful stone tools, but not with any human species (Homo Sapiens Sapiens, Cro-Mangnon, Densovian, Neanderthal, Homo Heidelbergensis, some hybrid of the lot) - that remains to be discovered.


28 posted on 02/08/2020 11:03:07 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s pretty cool. Here’s their website:

https://www.phoeniciansbeforecolumbus.com/


29 posted on 02/08/2020 11:05:10 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: xrmusn

One must be careful about the assumptions of why things are stated as they are because science is not always science and science doesn’t have to agree with its self which leads to leads to some strange situations.

Huge amounts of copper was mined by local tribes in the distant past.

The tribes were not users of copper technology.

The tribes claim they traded the copper to people with hair like fire and eyes like ice.

Copper with a signature that appears to have come from this area has been found in places around the Med.

Proposing any theory attempting to unify these facts by specifying who you think may have been involved in cross Atlantic trade at that time makes you a racist or a paranormal hunting lunatic.

You, a researcher that must acquire funding for the next project, are not going to go anywhere near attempting to prove this.

“Lunatics” and “racists” don’t get funded.

“Could” is the closest you will get to many things until science is again controlled by scientists instead of the funding controlled by sjw’s and an old guard that built a career on protecting falsehoods.


30 posted on 02/08/2020 11:05:53 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: yarddog

Photos of Melungeons indicate unique facial characteristics. Many of them have looked Indian, to me (dot not feather). I think Elvis Presley and Ava Gardner, among others, have been thought to be Melungeon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melungeon_DNA_Project


31 posted on 02/08/2020 11:13:27 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I can’t think of her name right now but William Shatner’s partner on his cop show was Melungeon.


32 posted on 02/08/2020 11:15:24 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO0UOsp-NZ8


33 posted on 02/08/2020 11:18:22 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: yarddog

Heather Locklear.


34 posted on 02/08/2020 11:18:24 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

“There is a group of people in Appalachia called Melungians.”

Me and my wife were talking about them the other night. When I was in grade school (50s) they had a section about them in the Tennessee Blue Book.


35 posted on 02/08/2020 11:20:56 AM PST by dljordan
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To: SunkenCiv

The Phoenicians has radar? That’s awesome.

L


36 posted on 02/08/2020 11:24:01 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: dljordan

One of their common surnames is “Collin”, which interestingly is also a common one with the Irish Travelers or South Carolina.


37 posted on 02/08/2020 11:25:14 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Has everyone forgotten Thor Heyerdahl’s Voyage of the RA? First ship broke up, second try made it to Barbados.

I read his books years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/08/22/archives/the-ra-expeditions-by-thor-heyerdahl-translated-by-patricia.html


38 posted on 02/08/2020 11:26:13 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: yarddog

https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/melungeons/


39 posted on 02/08/2020 11:27:44 AM PST by dljordan
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To: dljordan

When I was a kid in the 1950s, I attended Ponce de Leon Elementary school in Holmes County, Florida.

I don’t recall ever meeting one but there was a community between there and DeFuniak Springs, South of both, called Dominickers. I heard some of the names but can’t recall them now.

They were a mixed race.


40 posted on 02/08/2020 11:38:12 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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