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Six Reasons Why the Ottoman Empire Fell
History ^ | PATRICK J. KIGER

Posted on 02/02/2020 10:33:28 PM PST by nickcarraway

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Would it have made a difference if they "chose" the other side?
1 posted on 02/02/2020 10:33:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Because footstools went out of style.


2 posted on 02/02/2020 10:39:53 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: nickcarraway

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ee/bc/cc/eebccca93f7aebc362aea335453929bd—ottoman-empire-history-jokes.jpg


3 posted on 02/02/2020 10:41:32 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: nickcarraway

Because it was full of Muslims?

Not the most adaptive people in the world.


4 posted on 02/02/2020 10:42:08 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: nickcarraway
Plenty of reasons why America is failing.

The Ottoman Empire falling pretty much led to world wars and destruction to this day. The fall of the USA would be cataclysmic.

5 posted on 02/02/2020 10:42:51 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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No.
It was based on slavery. Didn’t matter what side they were on.

The world would no longer accept slavery as an economic basis.


6 posted on 02/02/2020 10:45:52 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: nickcarraway

One reason, Islam.


7 posted on 02/02/2020 10:48:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: mrsmith

China is still around.


8 posted on 02/02/2020 10:49:46 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Illiteracy and lack of industry are key elements. In order to be somehow successful a metropoly needs to have some appeal among constituents. Turkey lacked in cultural and economic senses and it became especially critical in the era of technologies. They went downhill starting 18th century.
Modern Turkey is still underperforming because of poor education. There are too much illiterate bums doing stupid jobs or outright doing nothing. The environment allows to absent from a rat race which they luckily do. Then they blame Arabs for taking their jobs or Russians embargoed their exports or Jews ‘directing’ all the above.


9 posted on 02/02/2020 10:51:34 PM PST by NorseViking
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Not the same.
See the “harvest of the Steppes”.
Ottoman Empire was entirely based on slaves. From Africa to Poland they gleaned slaves for profit.

China’s close though.


10 posted on 02/02/2020 10:54:49 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: NorseViking

I’m shocked you would badmouth a strong ally of Russia.


11 posted on 02/02/2020 10:55:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
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What happened? Islam happened. This means backwardness, lack of education, falling woefully behind technologically, corruption on a massive scale. In short all the things that mark the Muslim world today. The only difference is that some of them pitched their tents over some of the biggest oilfields on earth.


12 posted on 02/02/2020 10:55:20 PM PST by FLT-bird
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Islam was there since the beginning.


13 posted on 02/02/2020 10:55:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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"It wasn’t cohesive enough"

Wait... I thought... I mean, I thought diversity was a strength. What do you mean it was too diverse? How can that be!!!
14 posted on 02/02/2020 10:57:07 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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Russia and Turkey are case study of arch enemies. You won’t find two other major nations warring with each other so much.
There were like a dozen wars between them since 16th century.


15 posted on 02/02/2020 11:02:22 PM PST by NorseViking
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The Turks inherited a lot of technology the Byzantines/Greeks developed. Over the centuries, Europe had the Enlightenment. Science and technology took off. The Europeans sailed the oceans, discovered new continents, made a lot of money trading around the world, developed the technology that created the industrial revolution.....Meanwhile the Ottoman Empire stayed the same.


16 posted on 02/02/2020 11:02:33 PM PST by FLT-bird
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Turkey didn’t exist then. Yes, the Ottomans were enemies from the 16th century into the 19th century. But at the moment they are allies. Turkey buys a lot of Russian oil, and hosts many Russian tourists. They are strong allies. That is how I knew nothing would come of the Russian plane shot down.


17 posted on 02/02/2020 11:05:40 PM PST by nickcarraway
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You don’t need 6 reasons. It usually boils down to just one. They had to pay off European creditors. Everything else follows.


18 posted on 02/02/2020 11:08:34 PM PST by webheart
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The Ottoman Empire was already falling apart before World War One. It was in the process of losing the Balkans piece by piece.

All that the war did is finish it off, the same as it did the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

No one today even seems to know that the Austro-Hungarian Empire existed, despite the fact that the assassination of one of its royal family ignited the whole mess.


19 posted on 02/02/2020 11:09:47 PM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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Let’s say relatively close relation are novel starting about 1990s. That’s nothing comparing to 400 years of war. Especially in light of Ottoman aspirations of Erdogan government. Current Turkish colonization of Georgia and its incursions into Syria and Libya are showing.


20 posted on 02/02/2020 11:15:35 PM PST by NorseViking
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