“How much money to women spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?
Now, how much money to men spend every year on fighting for their rights, and how much do they spend on prostitution?”
It has nothing to do with how much money is spent by people in the US. You are so worried about finding the little guy being more guilty than the little gal, that it overshadows the real problem entirely.
You are calling the sex traffic industry just prostitution and I’m calling it a crime long before it reaches that stage. You overlook the kidnapping and forced participation very short sidedly worrying about the end game cost.
The real cost is not in how much money for rights or privileges are being afforded by apparently men only which I read as the gist of your entries. The real cost is the destruction of lives through kidnapping and torture. You don’t seem to care that is going on as you are just after the men who partake of it long after the fact.
I have provided you with sites, names, and proof of existence of things you have asked for. Now it’s your turn. Please provide to yourself the percentages of women that were forced into prostitution at street levels by an organization they joined versus one they were kidnapped into. You won’t find that one as there is no way to determine that. And don’t limit your self to just the street occupation. Go into porn, the S & M groups, the child trade, and look at it overseas both coming and going. If you can find it, you’ll find it is astronomical. And in many countries...legal.
But here’s some interesting thoughts about the sex industry in a study done by Time Magazine:
Some parts of the industry are more marketable than others.
Family has a greater influence on the decision to go into sex work then previously thought. The study found that pimps and sex workers were often encouraged by family members to get into the business.
Sex work isn’t all that lucrative, but it seems to offer a way out from even more dire circumstances.
And the worst of all:
One illicit sex industry that defied economic calculus was the child pornography industry. According to the study, kiddie porn is often traded for free.
And I’ll almost guarantee you that a vast majority of those kids were kidnapped. Catch the kidnappers and you kill the source of the industry. Catch the john or jane and you provide room for another one from an already provided source.
How much money provided by people based upon gender who partake of the industry means nothing to me. It’s wrong both ways. But it’s worse by not stopping the source.
Thank you for the conversation. I hope you find what you are looking for. So long.
rwood
I never said that we should just go after the guys, but only that the guys make up the majority of the human trafficking buyers.
You are calling the sex traffic industry just prostitution and I’m calling it a crime long before it reaches that stage.
I never called human trafficking "just prostitution" or anything close. It involves kidnapping drugging, and forced prostitution, all of which the men who "patronize those products" think is justified in providing them with a warm wet spot to stick it into. That alone is enough to make me disgusted, but that's not all there is to it.
That those human traffickers are making billions off of men while the MRAs get next to no support just makes it even worse. Given a choice of fighting for their sons against the so called "war on boys" or getting laid, these men choose the latter.
You overlook the kidnapping and forced participation very short sidedly worrying about the end game cost.
Have you actually read my posts? I condemed that in post 6 TO YOU. To repeat, "I'm so disgusted with this because some men (not all) think that kidnapping, drugging, and abusing girls an(d) women is a price worth paying to get some action."
The real cost is not in how much money for rights or privileges are being afforded by apparently men only which I read as the gist of your entries.
That is a cost, but that's a cost to men who have a choice.
The real cost is the destruction of lives through kidnapping and torture. You don’t seem to care that is going on as you are just after the men who partake of it long after the fact.
The men who partake are the ones who are making it profitable. That's the part you seem to miss.
I have provided you with sites, names, and proof of existence of things you have asked for. Now it’s your turn. Please provide to yourself the percentages of women that were forced into prostitution at street levels by an organization they joined versus one they were kidnapped into. You won’t find that one as there is no way to determine that. And don’t limit your self to just the street occupation. Go into porn, the S & M groups, the child trade, and look at it overseas both coming and going. If you can find it, you’ll find it is astronomical. And in many countries...legal.
I have no idea what your point is here. I understand there is a difference between consensual sex and human trafficking. Let's just say there are more people who are consentual S&M relationships or other kink than are forced into prostitution via human traffickers. How does that make the human traffickers or their patrons any less evil?
As for kidnapping for trafficking being legal in some places, that doesn't make it right, and it doesn't make it right to patronize the traffickers.
Family has a greater influence on the decision to go into sex work then previously thought. The study found that pimps and sex workers were often encouraged by family members to get into the business.
I don't doubt that, but that doesn't make them any less guilty.
Sex work isn’t all that lucrative, but it seems to offer a way out from even more dire circumstances.
If those billions of dollars spent on the world's oldest profession were spent on other things, it might create opportunities for them to get out of whatever "dire circumstances" they're facing.
And the worst of all: One illicit sex industry that defied economic calculus was the child pornography industry. According to the study, kiddie porn is often traded for free.
That is disgusting.
And I’ll almost guarantee you that a vast majority of those kids were kidnapped. Catch the kidnappers and you kill the source of the industry. Catch the john or jane and you provide room for another one from an already provided source.
You have it backwards. Get the kidnappers and others will take their place, as long as there's money in it. Catch the buyers, and no more profits. Better yet, stop pretending one isn't as bad as the other and go after both.
How much money provided by people based upon gender who partake of the industry means nothing to me. It’s wrong both ways. But it’s worse by not stopping the source.
The source is the buyers. They provide the funding to commit these crimes.
Thank you for the conversation. I hope you find what you are looking for. So long.
When people see the buyers as being just as bad as, if not worse than the sellers, then I'll have what I'm looking for.