Posted on 01/31/2020 7:33:09 AM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
It’s been widely reported that the virus can live on surfaces for over two weeks. The US and other countries import vast amounts of goods that are manufactured throughout China. These goods are air and ocean freighted throughout the world.
Governments are focused on quarantining people who show signs of infection (although it’s also been reported that an infected person need not show signs of an infection and can still transmit the virus), but we are overlooking the more insidious vector of foods and non-food items that come from potentially infected regions.
Our highly efficient distribution networks may exponentially speed the growth curve of this disease to the point that quarantines become useless.
Let’s hope they just meant ‘reinfected with pneumonia’ because their lungs are shot.
And not reinfected with that PARTICULAR coronavirus again.
Bull Crap!
Viruses are not “alive.” They are just genetic material in a capsule. They have no metabolism, consume no energy.
Welcome to FR. “Widely reported” is the same as Fake News.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4659470/
Not this particular coronavirus, but a cousin.
Many SARS papers say the same thing.
There’s a graph in the linked paper that shows infectivity on particular surfaces vs. day. 5 days was the least infective surface. Some were only 50% reduced infectivity after 5 days. Extrapolate that line (I know, a bad bad word to some freepers) and you get somewhere north of 2 weeks.
This might explain why the chicoms can be seen ‘fogging’ public places with disinfectant. There’s a video shot by one of our people that evac’d from wuhan showing tanker trucks of what looks to be water washing down toll booths or entrance gates and also the highway itself on the way to the airport.
>It’s been widely reported that the virus can live on surfaces for over two weeks.
FALSE, fake news!
That’s a big assertion to make without citing any evidence.
Do you have any sources or links to these papers?
And FWIW, a zoonotic virus is a virus that is contracted by humans directly from animals.
https://www.cdc.gov/onehealth/basics/zoonotic-diseases.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoonosis
While it is thought that this Coronavirus started in an animal reservoir, it made the species jump to become a human to human transmittable virus.
“Meanwhile, it’s not known whether or how long the virus might survive in droplets on hard surfaces, such as doorknobs or countertops. But we know the common cold virus (which is also a coronavirus) can last “a couple hours to maybe a couple days,” depending on temperature, humidity, and other factors, says Amesh Adalja, MD, an infectious disease expert at the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins University. Adalja tells Elemental that the same might be true of this virus, but he thinks surfaces are not likely the main form of transmission.”
https://www.livescience.com/how-far-will-coronavirus-spread.html
Imported goods from China should not carry infectious strains of the virus, especially given that most coronaviruses can survive on surfaces for only a matter of hours, Messonnier said on Monday (Jan. 27). “There’s no evidence to support the transmission of this virus through imported goods,” she said.
Damn! With every piece of information that comes out on this virus, the more it looks like an engineered bioweapon. The fact that it originated in the Wuhan area is a big clue.
Uh-oh! Don’t tell Facebook Head of Health Kang-Xing Jin, or I’ll be banned - what horror! Odd that an obvious Norwegian would be their Head of Health... /S
Where exactly are you seeing this reported? Everything I have seen indicates it’s more like 5 days. TIA.
Ping.
As with the Ebola scare we had, I just put packages and other new item that enter the premises in a garbage bag and place the tube from my ozone gas generator in there and ozone the heck out of it. PPM of ozone required to that is readily available online. Just add a moist washcloth or something inside the bag to increase humidity levels so ozone can work better. Very simple. Works on any bacteria or virus @ 99.9999 % of the time.
I was also concerned about it coming in on goods. Thank goodness PetSmart has Nothing From China in its stores.
2-4 week incubation is troublesome. What do you want to bet the Global Elites have had immunity since before it was released.
And BTW.. the market is down again because they hate BREXIT!
Read my followup post to Jane Long.
Click the link. At the very top there will be a hperlink something like ‘mbio’.
click that. it will load a popup. the blurb next to NLM will have a ‘PMID’. copy that number with your mouse. Thats the PubMedID number.
Go to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed
Past that in the search window (make sure the selector on the left is set for ‘pubmed’)
That should bring up the abstract/info at pubmed.
Over on the right hand side under ‘similar articles’, there will be a link labeled: ‘see all’. Click that link.
“But we know the common cold virus (which is also a coronavirus) can last “a couple hours to maybe a couple days,””
Given the paper I linked (concerning the ‘common cold coronavirus’) and other papers, it would appear that Amesh is being a little ‘economical with the truth’.
The New England Journal of Medicine published overnight (epub) two very well documented cases of transmission by an asymptomatic individual, one of which led to a cluster (in Germany). Accounts are free at nejm.org, yes, their politics are horrible but this real-time publishing is very helpful and informative.
The implication, already taken up by India, is that arriving travelers from China must be isolated for 14 days.
Since this would not last ten seconds in the Ninth Circuit, and since China is now a US State Department Level 4 “Do Not Travel” country, the implication is that the departures should be stopped, since I believe lawfare, the courts, and the globalists will make it impossible to stop or isolate arrivals.
Interesting. Thanks for the tip. How expensive a device do you have and how effective would it be for getting rid of molds and smells in basements? Even without this corona virus it might be a good investment.
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